Grandma fighting her HOA

[berudd]

still not the same, not taking your bait. Our flag is not something divisive or disagreeable, or shouldn't be anyways.

It’s not bait its reality. And the flag is not the issue here. Anything other than numbers is prohibited.

[BOATS]

She's gonna lose, rules are rules. And instead of just painting over they could place paint remover over it and pressure wash, but whatever. p.s I don't agree and the flag should be able to stay, but like I said rules are rules.

[grandbassslayer]

It’s not bait its reality. And the flag is not the issue here. Anything other than numbers is prohibited.

notice I never agreed with her. I think the hoa is correct. I just disagree with lumping the dnc flag or mexican flag in with stars and stripes.

[D.O.C. 989]

HOA's go against the principle of the founding fathers who were sick of government in their lives and in my opinion that is exactly what a HOA is, a governing body. People buy into those because they are too weak to live somewhere where they might have to say something to a neighbor who might let his property get out of hand. HOA's are a socialist concept at their best. It is creeping in further and further every day. I hope she prevails but she did also sign up for the socialistic policy so some will say she deserves what she gets.

[Mark Perry]

HOA's go against the principle of the founding fathers who were sick of government in their lives and in my opinion that is exactly what a HOA is, a governing body. People buy into those because they are too weak to live somewhere where they might have to say something to a neighbor who might let his property get out of hand. HOA's are a socialist concept at their best. It is creeping in further and further every day. I hope she prevails but she did also sign up for the socialistic policy so some will say she deserves what she gets.

They should press charges on the guy holding the gun to your head forcing you to move into a neighborhood with a HOA.

People should not be free to choose where the live or anything.

[D.O.C. 989]

They should press charges on the guy holding the gun to your head forcing you to move into a neighborhood with a HOA.

People should not be free to choose where the live or anything.

People should be free to live anywhere they want and that's as far as the Government should be involved. Wouldn't go over very well if a governing body suddenly decides everyone needs to drive a white electric vehicle or every home everywhere needs to be brown in color. HOA's and their ilk should never have been allowed to begin with, they are just an extension of Government, and we all know how Government can grow and get out of hand. Just my opinion and I understand yours so no hate here.

[Mark Perry]

People should be free to live anywhere they want and that's as far as the Government should be involved. Wouldn't go over very well if a governing body suddenly decides everyone needs to drive a white electric vehicle or every home everywhere needs to be brown in color. HOA's and their ilk should never have been allowed to begin with, they are just an extension of Government, and we all know how Government can grow and get out of hand. Just my opinion and I understand yours so no hate here.

As long as people are given the choice then not much I can complain about. We just did the house shopping thing and steered clear of a couple of HOAs as we knew we would not like living under their rules.

[Chautauquanuy]

I am all for legal flag displays. But a question for flag is experts, is a curb/sidewalk painted flag legal?

In looking at the US Flag code, this flag display may not be legal based on the points below. Does anyone know what the rules are for a painted US flag? Are they the same rules as below? Clearly the rules below are for true flags meant to be flown.

1. The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.
2. The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
3. The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
4. It is the universal custom to display the flag only from sunrise to sunset on buildings and on stationary flagstaffs in the open. However, when a patriotic effect is desired, the flag may be displayed twenty-four hours a day if properly illuminated during the hours of darkness.

We have a veteran here that reminds anyone flying a US flag to either take it down at night or illuminate it. Hopefully someone knows the rules for painted American flags.

[Jeff La]

Well if the HOA wanted to do their patriotic part they would amend the rules to allow the american flag with house numbers as she did. Don't have to make it for anything else or any other flag.

[pavi69]

HOA's go against the principle of the founding fathers who were sick of government in their lives and in my opinion that is exactly what a HOA is, a governing body. People buy into those because they are too weak to live somewhere where they might have to say something to a neighbor who might let his property get out of hand. HOA's are a socialist concept at their best. It is creeping in further and further every day. I hope she prevails but she did also sign up for the socialistic policy so some will say she deserves what she gets.

In 1980 I built a house in a subdivision with deed restrictions. I could have sold it for $100,000 when built. The HOA, run by the developer, refused to enforce the deed restrictions. First he let a friend move in a double wide. Then someone moved in a single wide. in 1990 I was barely able to get $52,000 for the house and today the value is not much over $100,000. All because the subdivision looks nothing like it was originally sold as. The place is now a dump and will be forever.

[bobh4656]

If you read the article there were 4000 homes in that HOA. That's a lot of homes and housing. Maybe this 82 year old woman was unable to find a non HOA development to live in? I can imagine in some places, maybe many, where HOA housing far out weighs Non HOA housing. It could much depend on where in the country where you live.

[grandbassslayer]

When it comes to freedom of expression, yes it most certainly is the same. Those rights are extended to all perspectives, not just the one you agree with.

Freedom sure I get that, but it still ain't right. Would you hang another flag higher than the stars and stripes?

[Nova Kaw 650]

You should ALWAYS sign an agreement then later violate and fight against it because you 'disagree' with it. ALWAYS.

Exactly ^^^
Apparently lots of people here haven't heard of, or choose to disregard that old saying, "a man (or woman) is only as good as their word".

[jham0077]

HOAs also cover groundskeeping, in most cases, and access to pools, gyms, community buildings for events, tennis courts, etc.. For an older person, a lazy person, or a busy person, somewhere with an HOA may be a great idea.
But don't balk at the rules when you break them and they try to enforce them. The HOA should have painted the numbers on the curbs themselves and avoided any confusion. Then uniformity would not have been an issue.

[jham0077]

Freedom sure I get that, but it still ain't right. Would you hang another flag higher than the stars and stripes?

Nope.
After all, it is America that let's one enjoy those freedoms.

[RazorCat]

If you agree to the rules with full knowledge up front, and they apply equally to all residence I don’t see the problem. If you don’t like the rules, find another neighborhood. If you don’t like the people on the board campaign against them and improve things.

[Beast]

just curious, has there ever been a case where a HOA has moved into a neighborhood that wasn't started by a developer? Or are they all developer started?

[Tritonal186]

I can’t believe anyone would buy a house in a HOA. They are a complete joke.

You pay them to tell you how and what to have on your property. I hate them with a passion . I lived in one for 10 years because that's what the wife wanted, to live in a safe and secure place , which it was not. I left after I had enough of their crap.

[tdutton]

Same shit different day. Rules are rules.an HOA is not the government. It's not socialist and nobody is forced to purchase a home within the boundries of one.

[berudd]

Freedom sure I get that, but it still ain't right. Would you hang another flag higher than the stars and stripes?

That has nothing to do with this. My point is that people bitch and moan about restrictions of freedom only when they approve of what they feel is being restricted. Freedom, means exactly that. Freedom. Even its not what you support. Especially when it is not what you support. Too many people just done get that.