I usally wait till around 50% unless i have a tourney, the charge no matter where they are at...
I usally wait till around 50% unless i have a tourney, the charge no matter where they are at...
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I have been but that because my agm is also connected to the charger. I'm not saying it's the healthiest way to treat the batteries but the ionic app is still telling me my batteries life is 100% so after the season I'll make detailed comparison to a friend who is only charging when needed^^^Originally Posted by JavaJoe_2
Probably guy's on BBC that have 2-3 years on their IONIC batteries. My guess they are still charging to 98-99%. Leaving chargers running on lead acid and AGM is not good, no management board on them to control charge. IONIC trolling batteries keep the same voltage at 50% as 99% so they provide plenty of power as opposed to AGM etc. The Bluetooth app will keep you updated on when you need to charge IONICs. Also it will help you understand how you use power for your style of fishing. You may find you can fish 2-3 trips before charging. Everyone will have their particular style and IONIC Bluetooth App will help you find what works best. Good fishing to all.
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Same here with my Ionics that get charged to 100% via a simple constant voltage charger. The BMS says they are 100% healthy. Who an I to disagree with the BMS?
Semi trucks to a great extent have their motors running many many hours a day. At times, all day. Whenever their motor is running their lead acid batteries are being charged. How is it that their batteries are not being harmed by constant charging?
The app tells you the level of charge your battery has. It is not an indicator of life remaining. Each charge cycle takes a toll on the batteries capacity. That is a very small amount of change on capacity since they are rated to be at 80% capacity when cycle life is used up. You would have to test the capacity by draining the battery and see how much capacity it has remaining. Bob
Tell me where has a slow movin' once quick draw outlaw got to go
Sure possibly in theory. Or if they have a 10 year life cycle and 5000 charge cycles but I fish 125 a year times 10 years 1250 cycles. And if you don't have ionic batteries and the app maybe you should look into it as there is an "estimated " battery life section not just state of charge. Also it will tell you how many watts and amps are flowing "approximately " at any given moment. When my boat is not moving and I slam power ten it will pull 44 amps but as the hull starts spreading up the load on the motor comes down to 37 amps. This was discussed earlier in the thread. 83859E7E-E928-402A-B39E-A98A1822DDD6.jpegMaybe estimated battery life is incorrect terminology but if it's sitting at 100-98 and is stable I have no fear, sure in a few years or a decade it may go from 80% to 50 in a couple months, we will cross that road when we get there. Current battery Health/condition/capacity... what ever.
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Mercury 250 proxs 2B115089
It's probably not the best for the batteries but there are loads on them all the time too, I would bet the newer alternators free up and don't make a charge as often as they can get away with it, pick up trucks have been doing this for many years as well to the point Chevy/gmc make their volt gauge lie so people don't complain that something is wrong. This frees up efficiency and improves MPGs
Mercury 250 proxs 2B115089
You can use all the numbers, their meaning depends how they are calculated. I am sure its a formula using cycle count, possibly with a factor from depth of charge averages, or not. There are many factors involved in the actual "health". These are nice numbers and short of actually measuring capacity is more numbers than the rest give. It is very nice to have numbers from their tables. Most have none unless you have the testing equipment on hand and the time and desire to know the details. Using the proper charger and try not to go outside the spec's they will last as long as they should. For me, after proper setup and reasonable conditions is all the thinking about the batteries I care to do. I follow the manufacturers recommendations on charging. Bob
Tell me where has a slow movin' once quick draw outlaw got to go
I did the same! No problems at all with that setup.
Damn if I can tell what is best for a battery and what is not. Too much (miss?) information out and about.
I have a group 65 flooded lead acid battery on a test bench. About 825 CCA I believe. Powered by a 125 amp alternator. Dumb alternator. All it knows to do is to maintain X volts output.
As the battery is charged the current flow goes down. Down to about 0.3 amp where it seems to stabilize. At 14.5 volts.
Will having 0.3 amps going to a battery for hours on end do it any damage? Darned if I can tell.
And what will be the damage? A reduction in life? How much? If I lose one month over say 6 years is that a show stopper or is it worth it for the convenience?
Many remove and replace batteries on a calendar basis. Apparently just for the hell of it. In those cases the loss of a month or two won't matter.
To quote the Eagles. "The more I know, The less I understand."
LOL.....If you read this thread from the first post till now.......maybe you will qualify for a phd in battery science. Modern automobile alternators have built in regulators and running vehicles are using battery current for all active functions, heaters, air conditioning, big stereo amp, all kinds of stuff.... Non lithium batteries sitting idle on chargers over time will dissipate electrolyte and may go bad, whereas Lithium has the BMS to shut the charge off.
One thing to keep in mind is leaving any batteries charging for long periods is the possibility of fire, storm damage and etc. The IONIC Bluetooth app will always be your friend and show what is needed and what is not needed at the time. Lithium over time does not discharge as lead acid batteries do. So no prolong charging required, nor trickle chargers. I have found for ME is to keep it simple, a quick look at the IONIC BT App, keeps me up to date. Again everyone has their unique situation and will find their on routine.
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My trolling motor batteries and charge went out at the same time and at the summer sale price, it made sense to switch over to lithium. I ended up getting the ionic 3x50ah, 1x125ah, and the ionic charger. Replacing my 27s, 31, and a dual pro saved me 150lbs and a ton of space in my bilg.
I'm running a triton tr20xhp with an 06 merc proxs 225. No issues cranking but the starter does sound a bit different. Will be interesting to see how it performs in the winter.
Went out fishing in 15mph wind and heavy boat traffic for 4 hours. On a 112lb fortrex, I ended up with 73%. For me that is plenty of juice for 99% of my fishing days. Can't even put a dent in the 125 running 3 garmins and livescope.
Feels like a completely new boat in a good way. Much better hole shot and mid range. I can now stay on plane down to 18mph. Chine walk is much easier to handle at WOT. I don't see myself ever going back to lead.
Wondering if anyone else experienced this:
Twice in the last year my cranking battery would not start the motor even though it was at 100%. As soon as I turn the key the volts go to 0% and then go back to fully charged after a bit on the charger. I have to hit it with a booster pack and then it's fine....for a while.
It's almost like it has volts but no cranking power.
What battery do you have? Sounds like the BMS is cutting off due to over current .... and then resetting itself.
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Twice in the last year my cranking battery would not start the motor even though it was at 100%. As soon as I turn the key the volts go to 0% and then go back to fully charged after a bit on the charger. I have to hit it with a booster pack and then it's fine....for a while.What battery and what motor ?
250 SHO with Ionic 125ah cranker.
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No I haven't it so random before it happens. One time after just cruising around, the other time fresh off the charger overnight.
Is there a reason the connectors are basically the opposite of other batteries? It would be so much easier to add all the connections if they had post with nuts instead of holes and bolts.
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