AgreeOriginally Posted by Jeff Hahn
Agree, the classic had a funeral vibe to it
Did you ever find the link to that "initial report"? I could never find it.
Of course it did to you.
Yeah, a funeral with 153k mourners.Of course it did to you.
Stop making sense. You know everyone in attendance was solemn and sad.
Some will push back I'm sure, the one thing to mention here is that most of the MLF/BPT sponsors have visibility and context for what their plans are and get information in advance of those here on the forums etc. They do a solid job of communicating with partners through their email, conference calls and their sponsor summit. Those with the biggest issue will be brands who are on the outside looking in and have anglers that they'll want in the booths come Classic time. Those days are coming to and end quickly and I think you won't see much cross promotion and love moving forward. Brands are going to have to make a decision if they want to take a hard line with an angler or anglers.
I've only been in this business for 11 years but I've said since day one that there needed to be one professional series and one clear winner for the sake of the sport. MLF/BPT principals are running a business and trying to win that race. It is what it is. Time will tell.
Gonna be interesting to see it play out no matter the outcome.
Having fishing to watch on Tuesday-Wednesday at work is pretty good to meBass & Flw for me every time. I honestly haven't saw one thing i've enjoyed about watching MLF. I think it pretty much sucks.
Can you post some details on how MLF is struggling. There guys are making more money than the other tours without paying an entry fee. Agree 40 don't get a check at each event. But at FLW 100 are not. At Bass half the field is getting 7500 with the other half getting 2500. All of them paying 5000.00 to fish. Most will be lucky to break even at the end of the year.
BPT has yet to produce a TV show yet. There live coverage we get to see will be produced into the shows.
Time will tell what happens.
I just don't understand all the negative thoughts on something that will not be able to be evaluated until after the TV shows are on next year. But I guess you guys need something to complain about.
Just opinion bud. I dont claim it to be any more than that. Time will tell what happens for sure. I'm not all negative on MLF either, just on some of the actions that they are taking. Heres a thought, many of these guys have the opinion that there should be one pro league. The only way that happens is if you can kill BASS. So they left BASS knowing they could buy FLW and thought it would kill BASS and leave MLF as the sole pro league. That makes perfect sense to those guys with the money to do so and would make a huge argument as to why some of these guys jumped ship. Well, now BASS seems to be doing just as good, if not better, and that throws a huge wrench into their plans. Maybe because to float their boat they need every dollar they can squeeze out of any sponsor out there, I really dont know. So now they send a letter to tell sponsors that they can either stay with MLF soley or not at all. That just seems to me that they know they are in trouble if they cant (a) get all that sponsor money to themselves or (b)hurt BASS enough to basically kill them off. It's just all opinion anyway and like I said before, I truly think all 3 can survive as is but let the product sell itself and quit all the fighting and jabbing and all that. This is an extremely small market and that kind of stuff will hurt you fast. Just an example, the platinum trail a group around here tried to do. BIG money team trail that would have filled up every year (limited spots). Mismanaged with changing rules and stuff and it was gone before the first year was ever done with really. Word of mouth killed that trail quick and I could see it happening at any level if they start getting stupid with some of the changes
Can someone explain how bass fishing sponsorship works. Because the Way everyone here is talking, it’s seems to work different than motorbike racing(which I know) and racing is the the most similar sport to bass fishing.
Everyone keeps talking about entry fees. What fees are these guys paying? If they are paying entry fees, then they need to look into hiring people to negotiate their sponsor contracts.
About the only cost these big name guys should have is, the truck, boat and tackle. Boat and tackle will come discounted and possibly the truck.
So I’m confused as the why big name guys are complaining or worried about entry fees.
Up and comers, yes, more cost but that’s how it works.
Have a question, did Bass Pro pull its sponsorship from BASS?
i can see MLF sponsorship thing work if they feel like they have enough nonendemic sponsors to hand to anglers. If MLF bought FLW, that is when I believe BASS will have a problem.
What can the sponsors really say though? It’s a monopoly starting with Johnny M. How do you bow up when as like TH or Lowrance bulk sales come from JM company. They won’t in fear of losing over 1/2 their business.
Even teams in NASCAR pay an entry fee every week before they show up.
it is not on TV , it streams live on the computer during the tournamentYep, no one knows that
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Lol, they're not struggling at all.
I have watched them both and I prefer BASS Live over anything else. The conversation and analysis are great. Zona and Hite have the knowledge and good timing, and Sanders is like the perfect straight man.
MLF wants to be the only game in town. I don't think that's ever going to happen.
Bass Pro Tour competitions & championship airing as originals on Discovery Channel, Saturday mornings, later this year with re-airs on Sportsman Channel in 20/20
I agree. While i'm a fan of all three circuits...if push comes to shove, i'd bet BASS would be the last man standing. It's got superior name recognition, and it has, and probably will always have stronger sponsor support.
Things can certainly change though. But if MLF/BPT starts over regulating their anglers...I believe it will backfire.
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