here is some information to grind, dissect, analyze, ignore, or dispute.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ford-f-se...160008113.html
here is some information to grind, dissect, analyze, ignore, or dispute.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ford-f-se...160008113.html
I’m all in on Toyota now, more American made than any other
Last edited by brnzbaklvr; 04-04-2019 at 03:02 PM.
"Historically the most terrible things-war, genocide and slavery-have resulted not from disobedience but from obedience"
Zinn
Actually the Ford F150 has been more "American Made" over the last few years ..Pretty much since they went to the Aluminum body..Believe it or not the little Honda is number 1 now..
Ford has 3 vehicles in the top 10..
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa.../amp/724724002
Last edited by brnzbaklvr; 04-04-2019 at 03:04 PM.
"Historically the most terrible things-war, genocide and slavery-have resulted not from disobedience but from obedience"
Zinn
If you look up the long term reliability data (JD Powers and others) of the american trucks Ford and GM do pretty well with of course, Toyota. Admittedly, this surprised me as I thought it would be Toyota BY FAR and its just not the case.
Buy what you like.
However, grown men so brand loyal they'll fight you over it is pretty comical though
Ranting incoherently
I drive a Chevy and a Ford. Still have a Toyota.
I was up at Greenpond today for work (ramp that the Elites went out of on Hartwell)... funny how many Chevys and Fords I saw now that the Toyota money is gone...
2021 Phoenix 920 Elite / SHO 250
Bullet 21XD / 250 XB (Gone to a great home in LA)
"There is no such thing as a bad day fishing!"
Drive a Ram before you decide. That will be all it takes unless you are, just don't care what it looks like or how it drives, loyal to a brand.
I went to the gas station before fishing in early February when the two tours were down. I had to wait while different wrapped Toyota trucks and boats got good gas, before I could get up to the pump. Most were FLW. Even sent a couple BBC members pictures in text that morning. Saying, I thought I was going to get a earlier start but these guys are hogging the ethanol free gas pumps.
I'll keep my older.....King Ranch.....
If you think Toyotas are bullet proof and more reliable, spend a few days at the dealership garage. They are just as full as any of the other brands and there not all in there for oil changes.
My truck is an F150, 2.7........my daily driver is a Rav4!
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We have half dozen Fords and half dozen Chevys. Each one is a little different, but they’re all decent rigs. I’ve never understood why people argue over rigs. They all have pros and cons.
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A good truck is like a well worn pair of jeans. What feels right to you won't be worth having to someone else. I feel blessed to afford ANY of the new stuff on the market today.
Many of you are old enough to remember laughing at the little Honda Civic CVCC, Chevy Luv, Ford Courier, and a host of others that were rebadged foreign cars because our good ole American manufactures got caught with their shorts down when the gas shortages hit in the 70's. Before then owning a "foreign car", especially a Japanese car was about like owning a Chinese car today.
It seems like you plop down your 40-70K and hope you get a good copy. Brand loyalty is what got those manufactures in trouble back then, and it will again.
To each his own but I’ll keep my GMC’s
2008 BULLET 21XD 2007 Merc 300xs
They all say how great they are but none of them give more then a three year Guarantee but keep raising the prices by adding more unnecessary things we don't need.