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    Hello All, the purpose of this post is to gather some ideas and advice about what may be happening in my situation. For the last year I have had the following:

    Helix 7 DI G2N (console) (DI transducer on transom) (AS GPS on stern)
    Helix 9 Mega SI G2N (console)
    (Mega SI transducer on transom)
    Helix 10 Mega SI G2n (bow) (Mega SI transducer on Ultrex) (AS GPS on bow)
    Ultrex version of the 360
    Ultrex 112lb 36 volt link
    All hooked to ethernet switch

    ***With this set up I never noticed any interference no matter what transducer I had allocated to whatever unit.



    Here is the problem:

    I purchased a new Helix 12 G3N Mega+ SI and installed it yesterday. All I did was change the transducer to the new one from the Helix 9 on the transom, and placed the 12 head unit where the 9 was (had to change the mount obviously). Basically just swapped the new 12 in place of the 9.

    Was out at the lake today and with all (3) graphs on the 360 was so "wagon wheeled" with interference that is was virtually unusable. If I shut off both graphs (the 12 and 7 at the console) it would get much better but still a little interference. After that I tried it with just the 7 on (bad interference) and was the same with just the 12 on (bad interference). I also had some bad interference on the 12 when using side imaging and the Pro XS250 running, kind of a random strafing effect that was a different color and would come and go. All the electronics are fed from my cranking battery and the Ultrex is on a dedicated 3 bank.

    Seems really weird that by just swapping the one graph out all these problems arise. Is it possible that:

    1. The ferrite ring on the power cord for the gen3 is different (currently using the one from the 9)?

    2. Something is internally wrong with the new 12 or new mega+ transcducer?

    3. Something in a setting (noise filter)?

    4. The (3) transducers I am using don't wanna play nice together (lol)?


    Anyway, sorry for the long post but I really need some ideas on what to try. I will check the ground fuse in the ultrex tomorrow but I doubt its blown.

    Any and all ideas, comments, tricks, solutions, etc. will be much appreciated!

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    Forgot to mention, the trolling motor bank of batteries are not "common" grounded to the cranking battery. And, I do have a stealth1 charging system (AC and DC)

    Thanks a bunch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BassCatKWG View Post
    Forgot to mention, the trolling motor bank of batteries are not "common" grounded to the cranking battery. And, I do have a stealth1 charging system (AC and DC)

    Thanks a bunch!
    Turn Sonar OFF with the Helix 7 DI unit (you can disconnect the transducer also if you want). Choose the console Helix 12 as the source for DI, 2D, SI, and Temp. in the Helix 7's network menu.
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    Thanks Wayne. I did have the sources on the 7 changed to the 12 transducer but it may still may be pinging. Gonna unplug the 7 di transducer and/or remove it and see what happens, I never use it anyway. Kind of just left it on the transom as a buck up.

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    So I was messing around in the garage earlier (I know its really not that useful to test on land) but I had a little time to burn so figured why not. SI showed spikes, bands, etc. When I "common" grounded the low side negative of the trolling bank to the cranking battery the spikes went away and SI screen was clear. I just touched the terminals with a jumper wire momentarily. When i removed the jumper spikes would reappear. I know it use to be common practice to bond the negatives but is that still the case? I also have read that grounding the ethernet switches to the cranking negative sometimes can help. Any thoughts on these bonding techniques? I do have th AC/DC Stealth1 charging system so I am going to check with them to see if doing any of this would interfere with its operation.

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    And Wayne, I did turn the sonar off on the 7 and disconnected the transducer, it showed no change, but again that was in the garage. Will try it on the water when I get a chance.

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