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    250 v 300 on a Puma

    So if you were to repower with a new 4 Stroke Pro XS.......

    which would you chose? 250 or 300?
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    If you fish anything other than clubs, 300 is not sanctioned

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phisherman View Post
    If you fish anything other than clubs, 300 is not sanctioned
    I dont
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    I have a 2016 Puma and if Yammie made a true 300 SHO, I would trade my 250 in a heartbeat. I know I can flash it, but I still have 3.5 years of warranty left.

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    There are a lot of events with only maximum boat HP ratings allowed. The limitations are mostly Bassmaster and FLW events.

    For example, Bass Champs (TX) is open to USCG ratings, as are CATT, Carolina Bass Challenge, OMTT, Alabama Bass Trail, Arkansas Bass TeamTrail and many more events allow Max. HP to the USCG labeling.

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    lol hope it's not your portly co-angler that's got you thinking about the 300 :).

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    There's actually only 20hp difference between the two and they make within 1ftlb of torque...
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    That’s our opinion, there’s not a huge increase in ponies. We do wonder about the actual ponies varying from the CARB reports. We did note the torque also and that plays huge on heavier loads and boats.

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    That’s our opinion, there’s not a huge increase in ponies. We do wonder about the actual ponies varying from the CARB reports.
    I wonder as well, but it's an official government document that the manufacturer supplies for emissions purposes so I don't see a reason for lying as we know what happened to VW with the diesel gate scandal. I've always found outboard power ratings strange being so vague. It'd be like boats being classed only in 1' increments with a 6" tolerance, so you could have one boat company claiming their 19' boat (really 18'6") is the same as another 19' boat (really 19' 6") because of a +/- 6" rule. Or in the case of outboards +/- 10% which can cause stickered ratings to overlap with actual propshaft numbers.

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    The most common issue is HP@RPM. Manufacturer chooses the RPM. Ford de-rated the V-10 used in the F53 chassis a few years ago. Yet the parts are the same. Just the RPM chosen (lower) dropped the HP. Yet the pre and post-rerating F53s perform the same. A prop shaft dyno is the easiest way to compare power levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bass Cat Boats View Post
    There are a lot of events with only maximum boat HP ratings allowed. The limitations are mostly Bassmaster and FLW events.

    For example, Bass Champs (TX) is open to USCG ratings, as are CATT, Carolina Bass Challenge, OMTT, Alabama Bass Trail, Arkansas Bass TeamTrail and many more events allow Max. HP to the USCG labeling.
    This. With my skill set, I'm on no danger of being drafted to fish Bassmaster or FLW events anytime soon so that's why I went with the 300.
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    Due to the limited gain, I would go with the 250. Further more the 300 is going to cost more coin innitialy, then your insurance premium will more than likely increase. The 300 is probably not quite as fuel efficient as the 250 not that either one of them are. Finally, when it comes time to sell the boat you lose a lot of your potential buyer's because of tournament body restrictions/rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phisherman View Post
    If you fish anything other than clubs, 300 is not sanctioned
    Not true

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    Covered

    There are a lot of events with only maximum boat HP ratings allowed. The limitations are mostly Bassmaster and FLW events.

    For example, Bass Champs (TX) is open to USCG ratings, as are CATT, Carolina Bass Challenge, OMTT, Alabama Bass Trail, Arkansas Bass TeamTrail and many more events allow Max. HP to the USCG labeling.

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    To Basscat:
    Just a thought, but have you tested a Puma, Cougar or Eyra with the new Mercury 300R 4 stroke?

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    They ran the Eyra with the 300 Pro XS and have it with the 300R and have not released details.

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    It is not just the Bassmaster/FLW issues with a 300, when you go to sell your boat, you will have less of an audience for that motor