Remington 870 Wingmaster?

[Frogchunker]

Are the new ones as good as the old ones?Thinking of getting one,or the Browning BPS

[Transom]

Probably not as good as the old ones but still miles ahead of the cheaper offerings. One of the products from big green I would buy.

[bshort]

I have both. The 870 is an easier clean.

[Babe Winkleworm]

I have both. The 870 is an easier clean.

Why would you do that...they shoot better when they grind.

[spinningreel]

Browning BPS all day long.

The wingmaster is a nice shotgun, don't get me wrong. But at $100 less expensive, I'll take The BPS every time. I prefer the bottom eject, and I like how easy it is to empty the magazine tube on the BPS with a push of a button instead of racking the pump each time to eject the mag. tube one at a time. The BPS is built like a tank. The only other pump I think compares in build quality are the NEW Ithaca 37's, the ones made in Sandusky Ohio, but they cost a few hundred more than a BPS.

[z7extreme]

Do they still make the wingmaster? I have my dads 12 and 20 gauge he had when he was a kid.

[spinningreel]

The 870 wing master is still in production, probably the best selling pump of all time. Good guns indeed, I just prefer the Browning pump.

[Frogchunker]

Looked at a couple used Wingmasters,and a BPS today.Used prices are through the roof,ended up buying a new Beretta 300 Outlander.First Beretta I've owed,always had Remingtons,and Brownings.

[ProVle]

Some may not know that there are several different grades of the 870, if you run across a TB or TC model these are the trap grade guns with high grade wood and hand fitted parts, much different from the common box store 870.

[spinningreel]

The Browning BPS Field grade pump can be had brand new for $579 and right now you get a $75 rebate, so that about $504 new. Congrats on the Beretta, I've never owned one but Beretta shotguns are know to be top of the line. Beretta actually owns Benelli and a couple other top tier brands.

[GeauxTide]

Owned both and prefer the BPS.

[scl]

Newer Remington bluing process is deplorable. They'll rstart rusting in a eartbeat. I'm an 1100 guy myself, but have a couple older 870's. Friend bought a new V3 for ducks and it startied showing rust within the first day in the blind. Another had an 1100 sporting, nice expensive 1100, and it rusted sitting in his safe, oiled up. Different processes I guess. I'd still like to get a V3 in camo though.

[Tidewater Bass]

Having both for many years I would suggest the BPS over the Wingmaster. The Browning BPS has the smoothest action of any pump i have ever picked up.

[gambler4]

There is a reason they have sold over 12 million 870's .
i have a 20 gauge I got in 1973 ,it still shoots great ,I just bought a new 12 gauge it shoots great but I had to buff off the coating after the first day in the field. And blued it . The new coating is poor to say the least ,

[mean_dean]

Every time I hit a gun store I always look at the used 870's, the older Wingmaster's seemed to have better wood. I keep looking for one of those really nice variants with fantastic wood and nice engraving, one day I'll find one and snag it.

Currently I have a 20 gauge express that is fairly new, Dad bought it for one of my niece's to use deer hunting probably 10 or 12 years ago, express variant and pretty plain.

Also have a TC Trap version that I bought new back in 1989 in the safe, while it has reached retired status with me I'll probably give it to one of my boys as their first trap gun soon. Had a smith work the forcing cone and had the barrel ported, hits targets hard leaving dust clouds and is actually pretty light on recoil.

[drainplug]

I own two very old 870's one has been my PA Slug gun since last use of rifle in my area was '76, (guns are MUCH older than that) first had smooth, then rifled slug scoped barrel...flawless, the other just sits in gun case, that one has the worthless cuts compensator, (guessing early 60's?) on it... no problem, my dad invested $100 for an 870, Marlin 22 and Parker Trojan 16 DB in the early 70's

[acesover]

Back when I used to shoot a ton of skeet, there was a guy that shot at the range that had an 870 in 12,20,28, and .410. They were so smooth that if you pointed the muzzle up and hit the release, the doggone things would just slide open. Great shotguns, but don't know about the newer ones.

[Gamblinman]

Look for the Special Purpose or police models. They have better internal parts.