Speeding ticket

[Casslaw]

I fight these all the time. If he was pacing, it USUALLY doesn’t hold up unless the LEO brings in the last time his speedo was calibrated...they’re not around here usually so thats hard to come up with.

Unless your grandson was under a chopper that was timing him between the lines drawn on the interstate this is easily a winnable ticket. Also depends on how fast he was going. Speeding through a neighborhood will bring zero sympathy from a judge or magistrate, doing 11 over on the interstate is a different story.

If its its worth it to you, pay an attorney $150 to get rid of it. “Lessons” aren’t learned from hiking up insurance premiums and things of that sort. Whether or not your grandson learns a lesson has zero do do with paying the ticket imo, it has to do with how he is punished, if at all. Thats your business, you asked about a ticket not how to be a grandparent.

[TRCM]

My point on teaching him a lesson is if he’s constantly speeding then take his keys away, phone away, things that’ll hopefully have a positive, long term, effect on him.

My my son went to court and paid his ticket for blowing a train horn in a parking lot away from anyone. He learned that taking drugs, shoplifting, and speeding are less of a crime for a teenager than a train horn. I hardly call that a good life lesson learned. A lesson learned, yes, but not the one I would have preferred. That is where parenting comes in to play. He shouldn’t have blown the horn but the fines for drugs, shoplifting, and speeding should have been greater in my opinion.

Train horns are not legally allowed to be used on a vehicle as a warning device (horn) in many states due to the 130-150 decibel output they carry being too high. They can be used for alarm systems tho usually.

Texas & Georgia are 2 that have this law. In Texas, it will fail an inspection as a result and result in a traffic citation if used as a horn.

Most other states do not allow the use of air horns on anything but emergency vehicles.

I don’t know if guesstimating is admissibile in court or not. But in traffic court that may be irrelevant unless you hire an attorney. Otherwise, I know who the judge will believe.

As a teen, my son got a ticket for having his radio too loud. It was a stock stereo system incapable of meeting the decibel level required by Ohio Law. And, according to Ohio Law, the officer must have a decibel reading. The officer who wrote his ticket did not have a decibel reading, just issued it on his own judgement. My son wanted to fight the ticket. I wanted to fight it too, but knew what the outcome would be. The judge was going to believe the cop, regardless of the fact that he did not have a decibel reading, as required by law. Fighting the ticket was just going to be a waste of time and money. We paid the ticket and moved on. I also didn’t want to pi$$ off the cops and make my son a future target.

ha ha...doubtful...all he had to do was turn it down and the decibel level would also go down.......

I'd bet they knew this was the action you would take.....judge can't legally ignore missing data that is required to prosecute (ie decibel reading).

[lakefolk]

Kinda like you worrying about me. Get over it, I haven’t asked you for an opinion or to raise my kid. He did learn; he learned doing drugs carries a lesser punishment than a train horn. Those train horns are serious business and violators absolutely should be punished to the maximum extent of the law. Now, go back to your keyboard and save the world.

don't flatter yourself you keep putting yourself out there in the lounge for everyone to see.
sorry to hear the boy did hard time...........

[Transom]

The cop did him a favor dropping it to 54 because if he put down 55 thats 20mph over and he could lose his licence.
Pay the fine and move on.

Yep. I had an officer reduce one of mine one time to 24 over to avoid reckless driving citations. Most folks sped when we were teenagers. A fine is not the end of the world and most likely was deserved.

[Bassman Ia.]

After thinking about it------- make him pay the ticket. I drove for a year before I was old enough for a DL, but I was REAL careful. I turned 16 and my very first ticket was
Drag racing
speeding
anti-noise
disturbing the peace
improper lane change
not having the registration signed.

Lost my license, and I lost my license 3 more times before my 17th birthday. I was paying $65 a month for liability on a 55 Chevy in 1968. $110 a month for full coverage on a 1966 Fairline in 69'. Lesson learned----- the hard way.

[TRCM]

After thinking about it------- make him pay the ticket. I drove for a year before I was old enough for a DL, but I was REAL careful. I turned 16 and my very first ticket was
Drag racing
speeding
anti-noise
disturbing the peace
improper lane change
not having the registration signed.

Lost my license, and I lost my license 3 more times before my 17th birthday. I was paying $65 a month for liability on a 55 Chevy in 1968. $110 a month for full coverage on a 1966 Fairline in 69'. Lesson learned----- the hard way.

Dude...you're old.....I had just started pooping in a toilet when you were getting them tickets...........do you fart dust ??

[C130]

don't flatter yourself you keep putting yourself out there in the lounge for everyone to see.
sorry to hear the boy did hard time...........

Putting myself out there, you think I give a rats ass what you or anyone else on BBC lounge thinks. Don’t flatter yourself, I just stated going to court or paying a ticket doesn’t necessarily equate to a “lesson learned”. Like others stated, speeding tickets are just a form of revenue, nothing else. They do nothing to slow down traffic. Personally, I don’t want to pay a ticket, never have, in 50 years.

If you think doing drugs should equal a lesser fine than a train horn then you have bigger issues. He blew the horn, he got caught, paid the fine. Doesn’t make it right in the court system for someone doing drugs to have a lesser punishment, it’s BS. That’s my opinion, take it or leave it.

As far as speeding, LEO’s speed as much or more than anyone. Guess you can call it a perk of the job, good for them. Basically, everyone speeds so it’s just the unlucky who get the tickets.

[mysuzytoo]

Our's is a police family. Late wife, son-in-law, granddaughter, many friends! Police rarely stop and write anybody for doing less than 10 over ... if so it's because of erratic driving. A friend's daughter got a ticket for doing 5 over. He complained to me because he thought it was unfair to give a young person a ticket for JUST doing 5 over. I asked if she was REALLY doing just 5 over. He asked her and come to find out she was doing 15 over, but the cop wrote her for 5. Hey gang ... 99% love what they do, but just want to go home safe!

[bshort]

Putting myself out there, you think I give a rats ass what you or anyone else on BBC lounge thinks. Don’t flatter yourself, I just stated going to court or paying a ticket doesn’t necessarily equate to a “lesson learned”. Like others stated, speeding tickets are just a form of revenue, nothing else. They do nothing to slow down traffic. Personally, I don’t want to pay a ticket, never have, in 50 years.

If you think doing drugs should equal a lesser fine than a train horn then you have bigger issues. He blew the horn, he got caught, paid the fine. Doesn’t make it right in the court system for someone doing drugs to have a lesser punishment, it’s BS. That’s my opinion, take it or leave it.

continual traffic enforcement on the same stretch of roadway does in fact slow the majority of traffic down. The bulk of traffic is aware and cautious.

[Bassman Ia.]

Dude...you're old.....I had just started pooping in a toilet when you were getting them tickets...........do you fart dust ??

Old? I'm not old. I was born 6 years after WWII ended.

[C130]

continual traffic enforcement on the same stretch of roadway does in fact slow the majority of traffic down. The bulk of traffic is aware and cautious.

Thats good to know, you know way more about it than I do. The stretch of highway I live on is insane for speeding and has had multiple fatalities in the last two years. Three or four separate fatality accidents have happened at the entrance to our neighborhood in the last year resulting in numerous deaths and one high school kid in the neighborhood paralyzed. Another young lady was just killed a couple months ago. State Trooper sits in this area all the time and has been for months now but I’ve yet to see any change in behavior. He writes tickets non stop 24/7. I can’t believe people still drive 70 plus and it’s a 50 mph zone and they pass in the median or the shoulder all the time. Maybe it actually has slowed people down but it doesn’t appear to have. I will say the troopers have done an excellent job of stepping up the patrolling of the area though, people just don’t respect the speed limit.

[Basscaster]

I can tell how fast someone is speeding down my street. I can tell how fast someone is going when they fly past me when I am sitting at a red light. You have No Business being involved in this problem. Let his Parents and the licensed driver deal with the court and the expense. Time for the kid to take responsibility for his actions >It is the process we all go thru to grow up and learn > Right from Wrong.

[jigman51]

Believe me, I did!

If he is guilty, then make him pay the fine. Don't teach him to not take responsibility for his action.

[Fatshaft Merc]

Putting myself out there, you think I give a rats ass what you or anyone else on BBC lounge thinks. Don’t flatter yourself, I just stated going to court or paying a ticket doesn’t necessarily equate to a “lesson learned”. Like others stated, speeding tickets are just a form of revenue, nothing else. They do nothing to slow down traffic. Personally, I don’t want to pay a ticket, never have, in 50 years.

If you think doing drugs should equal a lesser fine than a train horn then you have bigger issues. He blew the horn, he got caught, paid the fine. Doesn’t make it right in the court system for someone doing drugs to have a lesser punishment, it’s BS. That’s my opinion, take it or leave it.

As far as speeding, LEO’s speed as much or more than anyone. Guess you can call it a perk of the job, good for them. Basically, everyone speeds so it’s just the unlucky who get the tickets.

You are the one that taught your son this, not the court system. YOU are the teacher/parent and if YOU focused on what other people did and their punishment, and how unfair it is, then, THAT is what your son focused on/learned.

[C130]

You are the one that taught your son this, not the court system. YOU are the teacher/parent and if YOU focused on what other people did and their punishment, and how unfair it is, then, THAT is what your son focused on/learned.

No, I didn’t teach him anything. I didn’t go to court with him and he’s 17, almost 18, and he formed his own opinion. I wasn’t there, he came home and told me about it. It’s not that hard at 17 and observing what he did in court to form that opinion. Pretty much anyone with any common sense at all would agree. Thanks though, I didn’t know I was the parent, you’re a freaking genius. Plus you know what my son learned and who he learned it from, you are brilliant.

Does it make you feel better to capitalize all the letters in certain words?

[a6hux]

Most be a slow weekend for everybody to say this much about a speeding ticket. Pay or Fight it. Pretty simple!

[C130]

Most be a slow weekend for everybody to say this much about a speeding ticket. Pay or Fight it. Pretty simple!

It is the BBC lounge where everyone likes to give expert parental advice, pay cash for everything, and boycott businesses.

[Fatshaft Merc]

No, I didn’t teach him anything. I didn’t go to court with him and he’s 17, almost 18, and he formed his own opinion. I wasn’t there, he came home and told me about it. It’s not that hard at 17 and observing what he did in court to form that opinion. Pretty much anyone with any common sense at all would agree. Thanks though, I didn’t know I was the parent, you’re a freaking genius. Plus you know what my son learned and who he learned it from, you are brilliant.

Does it make you feel better to capitalize all the letters in certain words?

When he told you what he learned, did you correct him? Tell him it isn't about what other people do or get fined? Did you tell him he needed to worry about himself and his actions, that life isn't fair all the time? Or did you jump on his bandwagon and confirm that he was right in feeling that way and curse the system? It sounds like you did the latter.

[TMG]

Someone should change the title of this thread to lawyers,loopholes and excuses.

[motomania]

Someone should change the title of this thread to lawyers,loopholes and excuses.

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No kidding.