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    Ice fishing transducer

    Hello, I want to use my Helix 7 DI G2 for ice fishing but have not idea what transducer to order.

    Any help would be awesome.

    Thanks.

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    If your unit has the ICE FISHING setting, the transducer is XI 9 20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne P. View Post
    If your unit has the ICE FISHING setting, the transducer is XI 9 20.
    How would I find out?
    I took the head unit off my boat for winter.

    I read this off the humminbird site, mine is a DI but if I'm wondering if I ran the unit it 2d if this transducer would work.

    Compatible with: All 100 and 300 Series except DI, All 500 Series except DI, All 600 Series -except DI, All 700 Series except DI, All 800 Series except DI, All 900 Series except DI, 3D models, All 1100 Series except DI, ICE 385ci Combo and All HELIX Series except DI


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    You have to start the unit up and look.

    You may can use the XI 1521 if that model got the same software version update like the G2 Helix 7 SI did.

    HELIX 7 CHIRP SI GPS G2 (Version 1.540)
    Release Date: 10/26/2017
    Description:

    New Features

    • Ice Mode added which includes:
      • Support of the XI 9 1521
      • Exclusive combination screen views like Flasher/2D Sonar
      • CHIRP Interference Rejection
      • Improved target separation
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    Will check, thanks

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    One more quick question, what power cable would I use and would I still have GPS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flex View Post
    One more quick question, what power cable would I use and would I still have GPS?
    You can use the PC-10 or PC-11 power cord.

    GPS is not related to a power cable, GPS is internal to the unit if it has that feature.
    There is a Helix 7 CHIRP DI G2 and a Helix 7 CHIRP DI GPS G2.
    If you don't have the GPS version, you can hardwire a GPS antenna to get the Track Plotter function, but you can't add any mapping.
    That is done with the AS YC cable to provide power for the GPS antenna.
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    When I use my Helix 7 on the water, if I get to close to others I get lots of noise and interference, will these ice transducers block out noise from others?

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    double post.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flex View Post
    When I use my Helix 7 on the water, if I get to close to others I get lots of noise and interference, will these ice transducers block out noise from others?
    I just picked up the Ice Helix 7. Software 1.740 updated to 1.830. In Chrip menu there is a IR mode or interference rejection, but I have not yet hit the ice with this. I still have my Ice 55 so I may try that at some point to test interference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flex View Post
    When I use my Helix 7 on the water, if I get to close to others I get lots of noise and interference, will these ice transducers block out noise from others?
    An ice transducer or any other transducer does not block out anything. It's a combo speaker/microphone that broadcasts sound and detects the return echoes.
    Cross talk happens when two sonar pulses overlap on the same frequency. You are going to get that if anyone near you is using the same frequency. If you can use the XI 1521 transducer, that will have the narrowest coverage and maybe enough CHIRP range adjustments to prevent some cross-talk from others near you.
    You may can get some "blocking" using the Noise Filter setting.
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    Unless you fish really deep water go for a wider cone angle. I fish live minnows in 15' or so and the minnow or a slight current can easily move out of even the wide cone on my Ice 55. Mine is early so I am not sure what my cone angles are at 240khz, but I suspect 19° or less for the wide one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel Pro View Post
    Unless you fish really deep water go for a wider cone angle. I fish live minnows in 15' or so and the minnow or a slight current can easily move out of even the wide cone on my Ice 55. Mine is early so I am not sure what my cone angles are, but I suspect 19° is the wide one.
    That setup has the narrowest coverage and highest frequency.

    9/19 degrees and 455/240 kHz.

    https://humminbird.johnsonoutdoors.c...r-ice-35-45-55
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    Anyone that has a Helix 7 ice fishing model. What kind of battery life are you seeing and what size battery (Ah) are you running?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne P. View Post
    You have to start the unit up and look.

    You may can use the XI 1521 if that model got the same software version update like the G2 Helix 7 SI did.

    HELIX 7 CHIRP SI GPS G2 (Version 1.540)
    Release Date: 10/26/2017
    Description:

    New Features

    • Ice Mode added which includes:
      • Support of the XI 9 1521
      • Exclusive combination screen views like Flasher/2D Sonar
      • CHIRP Interference Rejection
      • Improved target separation
    I'm gonna update my 7 si GPS G2 this week, I can't find the Version 1.540 update, will the 1.830 cover updates that have been missed?

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    Yes, the last version has everything before it.
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    Awesome, thanks again.