Trailer Tire Tread?

[Udee2159]

Hey There,

I’m hoping someone can let me know their thoughts on what’s going on with my tread. I replaced the tire due to feeling a wobble on the way home and saw my tread starting to look funky. Is this the inside separating (tire related) or issues with my actual trailer?

They’re Carlisle radials on a Ranger trailer, in case that makes a difference?

[Blackwoodz]

Broken belt?

[Casslaw]

It appears that the tire is delaminating...I’m sure there is a better term. Being a Carlisle I would think they would stand behind it, big company that makes a LOT of trailer tires.

[Transom]

It is fixing to be a road gator.

[TritonTRXV8]

It is fixing to be a road gator.

This! Tread is starting to seperate from the tire. Luckily you caught it in time those can tear stuff up at high speeds.

[Bassin Billy]

Was just looking at putting on a set of load range D Carlisles... now I am 2nd guessing...

[Tromanoski]

I would not run them on my boat period. It looks like that is a Carlisle signature " Im getting ready to fail and take your boat fender with me" tire. As I have posted on several past occasions, Carlisles are made in China and internal tread separation caused by poor workmanship happens with them. I have had two blown and have lost two fenders on my Ranger trailer. Carlisle replaced the tires and paid for damages both times. Buy the US made Goodyear Endurance. They are a D rated tire as well.

[06 SB]

Yup, it is about to pop. What is the date code on them?

[Udee2159]

Thanks for the replies everyone. I’m glad I replaced it right away. I emailed Carlisle and I’ll follow up with any resolution. The date code on the tire is “3114”, so 31st week of 2014.

[joebone1]

I had one that look like that and when it was dismounted, you could see it had broken belts. I initially thought i had a bent axle, but after 2 years the endurance are wearing evenly.

[06 SB]

The RV guys always say to replace trailer tires every 3-5 years and you are well in that window. I tend to agree based on my towing experience. Throw on some new shoes all the way around and keep on moving.

[Tromanoski]

When my Carlisle's failed they were just under (first blowout) and a little more than 3 yrs old (second blowout). All had really good tread depth still on them. On my second blowout after putting on the spare, I had to travel another 75 miles to get to a tire store to get a spare. The tire shop found the tire on the other side of my single axle trailer was starting to have belt separation. Your tire is 4 years old so don't be surprised they tell you that they are out of warranty. They pointed out to me that it looked like I was out of warranty on my second tire failure. But since their records showed that this tire was the replacement tire for the first blowout, they gave me again, new tires and money for the fender damage. I only kept those third set of Carlisle's on for about 1200 miles until I could get them replaced with the Endurance.

[CJ1]

I am sorry but this 5 year bs is just that, another excuse for poor manufacturing. The real problem is the made in China on the sidewall. If a tire won't last 10 years then it is poorly made with the limited use and miles a lot of boat trailers see. I have 3 years and about 8k miles on a set of Endurance that replaced the originals on my trailer and they still look new, as they should. Cj

[fishnfireman]

I am sorry but this 5 year bs is just that, another excuse for poor manufacturing. The real problem is the made in China on the sidewall. If a tire won't last 10 years then it is poorly made with the limited use and miles a lot of boat trailers see. I have 3 years and about 8k miles on a set of Endurance that replaced the originals on my trailer and they still look new, as they should. Cj

Have you ever inspected the sidewalls of a ten year old tire ?
I don't know about the Sun in Michigan --- But in West Texas the weather cracks would be deep enough for a scorpion to hide in.
There's a reason most big tire shops won't fix a flat on an older tire.
My partner bought a 6 year old boat from a widow whose husband had bought it new right before he died. The tires still had nipples on the tread !!
First long trip he took the left rear came apart.. Put the spare on and went about 6 miles and the right front went and took the fiber glass fender with it.

[CJ1]

Have you ever inspected the sidewalls of a ten year old tire ?
I don't know about the Sun in Michigan --- But in West Texas the weather cracks would be deep enough for a scorpion to hide in.
There's a reason most big tire shops won't fix a flat on an older tire.
My partner bought a 6 year old boat from a widow whose husband had bought it new right before he died. The tires still had nipples on the tread !!
First long trip he took the left rear came apart.. Put the spare on and went about 6 miles and the right front went and took the fiber glass fender with it.

Yep, I have a 18 year old spare on my boat that still has no weather checking, sidewall or tread. I have 1 trailer that has the 4 tires that were on my 2001 superduty, they were replaced from being worn out 2 years ago. They had a long life also. I understand where you are at about the sun destroying things but depending on the quality of the rubber being used by the manufacturer and exposure to the elements dictates how long it will last. BUT I have seen Chinese rubber that was junk after just a few years with hoses [I work in hydraulics] and tires. One front end loader we had lost all the rubber coating off of the hoses and wires in less than 8 years. The wiring was a mess and most of it had to be replaced. The tires were made in a different location [US] and the machine was from across the pond. Tires are still on it 15 years later! cj

[Udee2159]

Hi All-

I appreciate the feedback and suggestions. Based on this, I reached out to Carlisle to see if they could help me. They followed up with the below:

“You may still have a warranty on the tire; in order to process a warranty claim your warranty is two years from the date you purchase either the tire or the trailer if the tire came on the trailer. In order purchase a reimbursement for the tire if you have replaced it already or replacement please reply to this email with a copy of your original proof of purchase and a picture of the tire.”

I bought that tire in October 2016, so I followed the instructions above and received confirmation today that they’re going to send me a replacement. Glad they fixed the problem and followed up so promptly. I just wanted to share some positive feedback.

[fishnfireman]

[Tromanoski]

Man I still would not run their tires not unless I was desperate. Not only theirs but any other Chinese trailer tire as well. A lot of the RV companies are moving away from them because of all the failures and trailer damage. The one thing I will say about Carlilse, they are a stand up company about working with the customer on warranty and damage issues. But they still are a junk tire in my opinion.

[jtracc]

Yup same issue with mine. Except one of mine did separate... thought it was a bad axle on my ranger trailer but I laser checked it. Straight as an arrow. Swapped out tires, about 2000 km on the new ones with zero issue.

oh mine were Carlisle tires from ranger factory

[WjColdWater]

Man I still would not run their tires not unless I was desperate. Not only theirs but any other Chinese trailer tire as well. A lot of the RV companies are moving away from them because of all the failures and trailer damage. The one thing I will say about Carlilse, they are a stand up company about working with the customer on warranty and damage issues. But they still are a junk tire in my opinion.

I concur, Endurance all the way! No China bombs on my rig.