I tried the 90 on a baitcaster with 10# fluoro. I counted down to 10 ( by counting 1---1000 2--10000 and so on. seems to go about 11-12 ' ended up finding them suspended in 7- counted to 5 slow retrieve took a while but finally got a strike a nd a dink. I made a real long cast did the same count seemed to work better.I never got a hard hit just seemed to load up however the water temp was 34-37.ended with 4 keepers over 15'. I think a spinning is really better than a bc the retrieve speed is slower and the cast is farther. going again weds bought a smaller spybait going to give it a shot but gonna be hard to put that Jerk bait down. love to fish it