Don, I've looked at all the videos of the Livescope that I can find including those by LWinchester. So far most of what I've seen is not for me, hard for me to make much sense out of what I'm seeing as compared to the video images from their comericals. Now if I was fishing for tarpon or fish the size of humans maybe I could make sense of what I'm seeing, lol I'm sure HB will come out with something new before too long, have to if they want to stay competitive. I hope it's not too good, I've spent too much $$$$ already.