When not being used

[Sports1]

Which Stabil product? The "red" or the "360 Marine". The "red" appears to be for longer term storage. I will be getting out at least once every 8 weeks or so.

360 Marine.

[skeeterator]

Make more time to go fishing so you burn the fuel, problem solved. If a man's too busy to go fishing he's too busy period.

Never used any fuel additives ever and never will. If I wanted to piss away my money I'd drive 40 miles to the casino and at least have a chance of getting something in return.

[davidsa]

I'm like you but own a Merc. Get out about 1 day every 2 months in summer. Get down to Florida 4 times over the winter for about a week each. What I do is minimize fuel in the tank and use the recommended Merc stabilizers.

So lets say I go to Florida for 6 days of fishing. I put in about 25g on day 1. before last day I stabilize the 7 or so gallons remaining. At end of day 2 to 5 gallons of stabilized fuel in my tank till I get down 2 months later

[BOATS]

Ethanol free gas and don't worry about it.

[gehol]

look at the MSDS's,,, of all these stabilizers. They are either 99% ethanol,, or fuel oil. All marked up about 1000%.
Best thing you can do is buy from a high volume name brand gas station, and top it off when you get done fishing OR completely drain it. Newer boats arnt open air fuel tanks and not exposed to atmosphere as much so will take on less moisture. If you truly believe in something like OMC fuel stabilizer, go buy a qt of kerosene and a qt of diesel,, mix em up.. You will get the EXACT same results or non results.... and save a hundred bucks or so.

The old school stabilizers were about 95% ethanol,, they actually helped they could combine with small amounts of water make a burnable mixture and/or keep ur fuel line from freezing. BUT SMALL amounts... All those boats had open vents.
Then came the E10,,, basically old school gas with LOTS of stabil already added,,, case of too much of a good thing. Not talking about solvent and hose issues,, just burn quality. Too much alcohol,, caused some performance issues,, so add a stabilizer to E10, problems,,,
Sooooooo stabilizer makers were making fat bucks selling $1 worth of rubbing alcohol to rubes (Myself included) for $10 to $20. But all the sudden their market dried up due to E10.
Hummm new Idea,, we already got a market,, just need a new product and new label... Hey change to kerosene and some dye VOILA ! same markup, all is good.

For the life of me I cant see the value of adding a couple oz of fuel oil to 20-30 gallons of gas,,, but havent seen any research one way or another,,
Now adding a bit of rubbing alcohol to pure gas,, I can see some benifit.
News flash though Fuel makers ALREADY add all the stabilizers they can to make gas last,, all this aftermarket stuff is mostly a waste of money.( cause even if it works u can buy same thing for 1/10th the price or less)

Buy high volume gas IAW mfg octane rating recommendations, Top off AFTER fishing, run a fuel water separator,( most newer engines , and I imagine all, have them already).

Ok que the fan boys that dont understand the scientific method, or dont understand atedote does not equal evidence.

If any one has links to any UNBIASED, scientific method, tests to ANY fuel stabalizers on the market, I will be glad to read them,,,

Actually generally it is isopropyl alcohol rather than ethanol. However what you wrote is correct.

[gehol]

Ethanol free gas and don't worry about it.

And this is the best advice.

[stant]

Certainly ethanol free gas is the best solution, but finding that stuff near me is an issue. The one place that I believe has it has a very small parking lot and boat access is limited. Guess I could get 5, 5 gal cans and fill by hand.

Thanks for all the advice. Decided to waste some money and put Stabil 360 marine in. May not help, but hope it doesn't hurt.

[DustyD26]

I had my local Johnson/Evinrude tech tell me not to use the Stabil. Said he didnt know mich about seafoam but said stabil was no good. He recommends the Johnson/Evinrude 2+4. Now it could be cause hes a dealer for johnson evinrude. And he could mean stabil is no good for 2001 carbureted motor
. Idk just passing along what i was told

[Panama]

In July i bought a new Triton 179TRX with an Evenrude 115 on it. Love it so far but the fact are I only get out about once every two months. Should I be using some type of fuel additive for these long periods of non-use?

You say your motor is new....If I had a NEW in warranty motor, I would use the manufacturer name brand of stabilizer or oil or anything......but yes I would use the stabilizer with the ethanol fuels. But that's just me. I have a six year warranty on my Yamaha and I don't put anything oil or fuel related into the motor without it having a Yamaha name on it. I do not know from personal experience but have been told by a dealer that during an engine failure under warranty that Yamaha wanted a sample the oil taken from the failed motor and sent to the factory to check for the type of oil that was in the motor. I do know from experience from retiring from the air conditioning industry, that if we had a huge warranty claim on an industrial machine, we would run an oil analysis to see what oil the customer used during an oil change.

So what if it costs another 10 bucks?.... If I had a new in warranty motor I would not worry about that. In my old Mercury and also in the 1996 Yamaha listed below, I use Startron and it has been fine but I treat a new in warranty motor differently. If something happened, I would not want to give them a reason to talk at warranty coverage because of me saving a few bucks. That's just me though.

[gehol]

Brand would have no bearing on warranty as long as it met mfg. specs.

[mikesxpress]

Look here 1st.

http://www.bbcboards.net/showthread.php?t=864900