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Love watching dogs work. Beautiful pic!
Nothing prettier than a dog with head up winding birds.
Nice! Lord, I used to live to bird hunt. Back in the 79s when there were some around to hunt and it was easy to get permission.
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Same here Roddy, we had all kinds of birds back then.
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And here. I was checking cameras last year and bumped a covey of quail bout had to clean my drawers! Been a long time since I've walked up a covey like that. Seen them several times from the stand, I enjoyed watching them.Originally Posted by Roddy
Oops, ment to hit quote not edit.
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It been years since I have even heard any. Sad.
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I have a couple of coveys on my farm. Don’t have the heart to hunt them.
Cut my teeth on pheasants/quail growing up in SW Iowa in the 70s/early 80s... Watched it get progressively worse.
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It is like that here in NC also. You could take a limit just walking hedgerows years ago. Now even with a good dog or two, finding a covey is slim. I personally think the no trapping or limited trapping of foxes hurt the quail and rabbit population here. Throw in the coyotes thriving boom and that does not help either. A quail or rabbit has no friends in the wild.
Can't help but think you're on the right track. In my opinion there are other furbearers (racoons and skunks) that are thriving who also have a negative impact on quail. When I was a youngster half the kids I knew had coon dogs and looked forward to making a few bucks off the pelts. I don't think as many kids are into that sort of thing today. In my area, in the 60's and even into the 70's there was still a lot of farms pastured with native grasses and fence rows grown up and 15 feet wide. Those same places today have nothing but fescue and a barbwire fence. Places are all slicked up and look nice from the road but sure don't hold any quail.
Edit: BTW Chief, I admire the fact you are willing to travel to put those dogs in birds. A few of my buddies still do as well.
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Plenty of contributing factors, but your statement (highlighted) above is far and away the number one reason for the decline in upland game bird populations over the past few decades... a severe lack of quality habitat.
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Yep way more contributing factors. A friend of mine watched a flock of those damn white egrets pick off a whole covey of chicks. I can think of plenty more reasons too but prefer not to discuss them because it only raises my blood pressure or someone else's that I may offend.
Spent lots of time in those Iowa Fields also. My grandfather was a professional dog trainer out of Belle Plaine. We always has great dogs to work behind. This little Springer in the picture had more birds killed over her head than I could count. We called her short tail the "red light" and when it was on you could count on a bird.Cut my teeth on pheasants/quail growing up in SW Iowa in the 70s/early 80s... Watched it get progressively worse.
Talked to some fellas down that way a fews years ago...said that we had the best years...not so much any more.
Gramps, Dad, and Brother have all passed now. No one to share those memories with....so you guys will have to do.
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Those are awesome photos (I have a bunch, similar, that I really need to get scanned onto disks as backup)... Brings back a lot of memories.
Thanks for sharing them.
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Late to the party on this thread, but here in Central LA, it is the same way. We used to hunt them when I was a kid and it was no problem finding a few coveys. But how much, if any, effect do you think the burning that many timber companies practice have on quail? When our quail started disappearing, I heard that burning was one of the reasons. Just wondering. If I missed someone already mentioning this, I apologize.
The study done by the university of Georgia that I read one time said Racoons and fescue. One study of two identical 640 acre areas one the racoons where removed as much as possible the other wasn't trapped. No hunting. The one that they trapped the quail population expanded. The one they did not trap the population decreased.
I used to take up to 200 racoons a year back in the 70s early 80s. The decline in quail corresponds with the decline in trapping pretty well.
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Nice picture..
Ruffed Grouse are making a nice come back up North.... I have been flushing groups like crazy out Deer scouting and hiking.....I guess the UP is going really good but haven't been up there much lately...
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Thanks, Roddy. That would have been close to when the hides took a big drop. I used to hunt the coons with a couple of dogs I had and we stopped selling them. But we did keep on eating'em...lol.
Remember going rabbit hunting with dad and his brothers in the 60's and they all carried 410's and we would take all we needed without a dog of any kind. Just walking hedgerows and stomping those briar/vine thickets.
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