ECobb91 I was with that PA group, we always call NY and get permits when needed. We had 4 boats and 5 guys. We were told we did not need any with that small amount, so do not blame us. We took up 4 spots in the parking lot, that is all. We found out what time that tourney was weighing in and we came in a half hour after you guys to give you room to get out of the water. Please do not act like we were in the way of anything you had going on. If that is the case you may just want to shut ramps down for your events only. I'm sorry the fishing in PA is not what it is in NY and we like to visit your state. I assure you our club does everything required when we come to NY.