The torqueing balance thread got me to reading the red book again. I have apparently been measuring this wrong and have been running deeper than I thought I was. Not enough to make a huge difference I don't think but, just thought I would share with those who may not have read it. The point to measure from on the pad is 2-3 inches forward of the edge of the pad. I have always measure from the lowest point on the back of the pad. Turns out that is incorrect.