new 175 4 stroke or 150 pro xs?

[pfisher]

A buddy of mine has been talking to dealers about a repower to either the 175 four stroke or the 150 pro xs. Of the 5-6 folks he has talked to it about an even split between the two. He has an older ranger that is rated for a 175 and that is what he had his mind set on until the 150 pro xs came out. Another guy in our club said to post here and get some opinions. I have read the posts on both engines but don't see one comparing them.

thanks

pfish

[smallykiller]

From what I hear, the new v6 is in another class compared to the 150.

[BassinR83]

I would try out the 175. I have a 2015 1504s. I wish I could have waited to get the 175.

[21xTriton05]

V6'. No comparison

[pfisher]

He is running the merc 150 4stroke now but likes to keep his motor under warranty. He really likes the fuel consumption of his present engine and is worried the v6 will take him back to the 2 stroke days. Personally I think the 175 would be a great engine for him.

Thanks guys I'll pass it on.

[berudd]

So he already has a pretty new 150 fourstroke? Unless it gave me a reason to, I wouldn't even consider a repower. He's worried about burning a little more gas with the 175 but he's OK dropped a few grand for a new 150 ProXS? That's doesn't make much sense. FWIW, if I was going to repower a bass boat rated for 175 it would be with the 175 ProXS.

[flatsboy]

I would never buy another Optimax Pro XS with new 4 strokes introduced ever!
I owned a 115 pro xs , 175 pro xs & 250 proxs.
They are & were great motors but they are loud oil dependent and fickle once you get some hours on them and maintenance will cost you way more in the long run.

[pfisher]

So he already has a pretty new 150 fourstroke? Unless it gave me a reason to, I wouldn't even consider a repower. He's worried about burning a little more gas with the 175 but he's OK dropped a few grand for a new 150 ProXS? That's doesn't make much sense. FWIW, if I was going to repower a bass boat rated for 175 it would be with the 175 ProXS.

He had a powerhead failure on an engine once 6 months out of warranty and figures it's not much more expensive to just keep one under warranty. The actual difference isn't that much of you figure in peace of mind, that's his thought anyway.

He really likes the 150 four stroke but he does have over 400 hours on it already so honestly for him a new engine may not be such a bad choice. I will say most of his fishing is in the summer and he idles most of the day with fishing when he finds them. He is also different in that he may catch 4-5 fish and go looking for another bunch. It took me some time to get used to his style but we won the only tournament we fished together and didn't fish unless we saw fish. Most of them were less than 10 feet and he was finding them on SI. The big fish pot we captured he saw sitting next to a brush pile in 8 feet of water. So yea I would say he puts hours on a motor more than most...... lol

[strids97]

Why not the new 175 ProXS 4-Stroke, that will be even better. That would blow the 150 Pro XS out of the water.

[Wave to Wave]

I think the new four stroke 175 ProXS is great, it's actually 5lbs lighter (470lbs) than the stock 175 four stroke, and revs a little higher, to 6000 RPM. However, the 150 ProXS is lighter still at 455lbs, has better motor mounts, puts out an actual 163 HP, and is priced really well. If budget was at all a concern, I'd go 150 ProXS for the value and weight. If money and weight weren't an issue, 175 Proxs 4 stroke.

The V6 has a better gear ratio: 1.85 compared to the 150 with 2.08. Great engines overall.

[pfisher]

I think the new four stroke 175 ProXS is great, it's actually 5lbs lighter (470lbs) than the stock 175 four stroke, and revs a little higher, to 6000 RPM. However, the 150 ProXS is lighter still at 455lbs, has better motor mounts, puts out an actual 163 HP, and is priced really well. If budget was at all a concern, I'd go 150 ProXS for the value and weight. If money and weight weren't an issue, 175 Proxs 4 stroke.

The V6 has a better gear ratio: 1.85 compared to the 150 with 2.08. Great engines overall.

Thanks a bunch for this info. I showed the post to him and this is exactly what he has been looking for. Not a single dealer explained it to him this way.

He was wondering why the gear ration mattered. His motor now will turn his 25 4-blade FS merc prop to 5700 and 58-60 mph on gps. Give or take depending on conditions of course.

[wifish]

Got a quote on a new Phoenix 618 which is rated for a 175. The new 4st 175 Pro XS was $1700 more than the 4st 150 Pro XS.

[Wheelman]

Something to keep in mind on the 15lb weight difference between the 150 and 175 pro XS 4-strokes is the latter uses the traditional 3-ram tilt/trim system and the 150 uses the lighter single cylinder/single speed setup. The 3.4L V6 is used up to the 225hp standard version 4-stroke, so I bet the 175 pro XS is a detuned version making 192hp as it turns the same 6k rpm vs the 5800 of the standard 175/200 4-strokes.

[Wheelman]

I think the new four stroke 175 ProXS is great, it's actually 5lbs lighter (470lbs) than the stock 175 four stroke, and revs a little higher, to 6000 RPM. However, the 150 ProXS is lighter still at 455lbs, has better motor mounts, puts out an actual 163 HP, and is priced really well. If budget was at all a concern, I'd go 150 ProXS for the value and weight. If money and weight weren't an issue, 175 Proxs 4 stroke.

The V6 has a better gear ratio: 1.85 compared to the 150 with 2.08. Great engines overall.

What do you mean by better gear ratio? Lower numerical is going to have a slower holeshot, you will just have to turn a higher pitch prop with a higher numerical gear ratio to run the same top end speed.

[idratherbeefishin]

Got a quote on a new Phoenix 618 which is rated for a 175. The new 4st 175 Pro XS was $1700 more than the 4st 150 Pro XS.

1700 $ for 25 hp

[Wheelman]

1700 $ for 25 hp

It's a $1730 option on a nitro z8 as well, you get more torque with the increased cubic inches and DOHC which translates to a better holeshot along with a traditional 3-ram trim/tilt cylinder assembly.

[idratherbeefishin]

It's a $1730 option on a nitro z8 as well, you get more torque with the increased cubic inches and DOHC which translates to a better holeshot along with a traditional 3-ram trim/tilt cylinder assembly.

Well that's crazy because I just repowered and before the V8 had come out and I found out that no more 2 Strokes are going to be made it was only an $800 more $ for me to go to the new V8 over a two stroke 200 .

[Wheelman]

Well that's crazy because I just repowered and before the V8 had come out and I found out that no more 2 Strokes are going to be made it was only an $800 more $ for me to go to the new V8 over a two stroke 200 .

When I was ordering before the new 4-strokes came out the 175 pro XS 2-stroke was about $2k more than the standard 150 4-stroke, which the new 175 pro XS 4-stroke is about the same as your 200 at around $1k more than the outgoing 2-stroke.

[TritonTRXV8]

Why not the new 175 ProXS 4-Stroke, that will be even better. That would blow the 150 Pro XS out of the water.

If i had a boat rated for 175 the new pro xs would be on there. Bet that thing is a runner for sure. 3.4l v6 will run very very well and the weight is only 20lbs more if i remember correctly.

[Wheelman]

If i had a boat rated for 175 the new pro xs would be on there. Bet that thing is a runner for sure. 3.4l v6 will run very very well and the weight is only 20lbs more if i remember correctly.

I agree, even if the 175 has more moving parts just buy the extended warranty. It's 14lbs to be exact and I bet some of that is the traditional 3-ram tilt/trim assembly vs the 150 that uses a single trim cylinder with one speed.