The only negative for the Evinrude's is their dealer network. Hard to find a dealer for service issues.
The only negative for the Evinrude's is their dealer network. Hard to find a dealer for service issues.
99' 201 Pro Elite
08' Evinrude 225 HO
[QUOTE=TDOSoldier;9411187]Is the Evinrude E-TEC H.O. G2's (225/250) really superior to Mercury and Yamaha...? Would appreciate some input before making my purchase of a newer Bass Boat. Thanks and Godspeed. ><>[/QU
Running 225 HO G2 , Very quick , 10 year Warranty, had 8 years on last E-tech no issues. No Regrets !
John Clark — Findlay, Ohio
Yamaha and Mercury had to comply with C.A.R.B. regulations, that's why they now have a 4 stroke motor , not because they wanted to, but because they had to. The same will be with Evinrude in a year or two when they have to comply. ….this is the facts, good or bad …..I guess we will see down the road
It is not comply. It is all about the size of the check that they have to write every year to maintain the current standards. The fewer the checks the larger they are. This was and is strategic. Now Rude is holding the ball. They will either pay more or develop new technology. The manufactures pass on their lobbying costs to the consumers, it is a tax.
Last edited by leo13; 06-07-2018 at 01:15 PM.
For our application it is the largest based on potential. Two strokes have a higher specific output per liter then a four stroke. In this style it is about 1.7:1. A 3.4L two stroke is equal to a 5.7L four stroke in potential output. CARB is california air research board it is not an EPA rating. Every state has their own requirements. The EPA basis their requirement on revenue. They raise standards based on income.
Leo, I understand your premise but there is no discrimination of engine type. The law as written doesn't care about 2 stroke or 4 stroke.
In order to get CARB certified the actual engine family must be tested using the worst model. For 2018 here are the results.
We will exclude CO as it is not regulated.
Lowest HC and NOx
Yamaha SHO is lowest
Rude G2 is 10% higher
Merc 4.6 Pro XS is 30% higher
These are the test results. If you Toss CO in Evinrude Crushes everyone .
So Change the standards and Merc 4S will be the issue.
PS if you look up the data you can see Peak torque and RPMs along with peak power and RPM.... It is an interesting bit of info
Last edited by Trickyrick; 06-08-2018 at 09:00 AM.
1994 Ranger 392
1994 200 Johnson Venom Oops not any more
2017 200ho G2
The old girl has some serious kick now
The EPA test is indeed for all types, 2 and 4 stroke. The difference is your referring to a state regulation and test method and I'm talking about the federal test by the EPA. The EPA tests at four different engine speeds and I have not seen the results for the different models. One would have to assume a two stroke at idle which is the first speed tested would have a higher HC level then a four stroke. Maybe not, maybe the G2 will be with us for awhile.
The CARB test is run and weighted at 5 different RPMs and is related to duty cycle. What I'm saying is if the testing is about the same then the 2 stroke can be better than the 4 stroke and contrary to doubters there is nothing to stop the continued production of the G2 that wouldn't also stop the production of existing Mercs and Yammis.
Now will it be less profitable to go from 16.1g to 8g. I do not know but as of now no one can get to 8g.... and 2 of three are under 12g.
So the G2 is hereto stay.
it is a strong and reliable option. If its strengths match your needs people should give it a look.
1994 Ranger 392
1994 200 Johnson Venom Oops not any more
2017 200ho G2
The old girl has some serious kick now
The G2 250HO is not the cleanest and will be more difficult to improve compared to the 4 strokes. The EPA will threaten to move the standards up and it will cost the outlier's to keep the current standards.
Here are the test results.
HC+NOx cert/family CO HP/rpm Tq/rpm
G2 14.2/16.0 80.3 246/5500 327.7/4250
SHO 10.4/16.1 220 265/5750 280.3/4500
MercV8 13.3/16.1 66.6 263/4000 304.6/4000
1994 Ranger 392
1994 200 Johnson Venom Oops not any more
2017 200ho G2
The old girl has some serious kick now
Yes and you picked the 300 rave and you torque numbers n rpms are incorrect.
1994 Ranger 392
1994 200 Johnson Venom Oops not any more
2017 200ho G2
The old girl has some serious kick now