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    Trolling motors on Tin

    Does your trolling motor thrust cause the aluminum base it’s mounted on to flex? I have a Motor Guide digital tour 70 lb thrust and every time I press the button I see the side to side flex. It even makes a noise most of the time. It can’t help fishing with the noise. But if for nothing else it’s in my head now so I believe it’s affecting my fishing. Any similar problems guys?
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    I have a 70#MK. I havent ever noticed it flexing.
    Make sure your bolts are tight and have some support underneath.
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    When you say the aluminum base flexes, are you referring to the boat itself? Or the base moving above the surface of the boat? What model of trolling motor do you have? I think I know what you are referring to but I want to be certain.
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    You may have to check the way the trolling motor is mounted. I have seen older trolling motors operate where the base is loose, probably just from use and abuse.
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    It’s a Motor Guide Digital Tour 70 lb thrust. I have opened the plastic faceplate cover that has a few switches on it. I have reached in there to feel for any nuts attached to the above bolts. Just yesterday I tightened again from above and was able to turn each just a fraction. I’m pretty sure from memory (I’ve had it off before looking for the same problem) there are threaded inserts and no nuts on this setup. The six bolts are all 2 hands turning as hard as possible with a screwdriver. I could try a drill, but don’t want to strip the Phillips head tops. I was just wondering if it was just an aluminum boat problem or specific to my setup. I know Minn Kotas thrust comes on gradually whereas Motor Guide seems to hit at once. It’s just aggravating to here the pop and see the base slightly rock side to side with each press of the button.
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    It is unclear to me if your problem relates to the motor flexing on the hull or if it comes from the TM mechanism, so I am not sure if this applies.
    My 2014 RT188 hull came from the factory with a 65# MG mounted directly to the aluminum bow. It had a vibration noise that increased with the speed of the motor and was very distracting. After trying tightening everything possible, I only solved the problem by mounting a piece of plywood under the deck and running the mounting bolts through it. It took this additional support to stop and or dampen the vibration.
    This pics shows rubber isolators but in the final solution, I eliminated those and used fender washers and lock nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Reynolds View Post
    It is unclear to me if your problem relates to the motor flexing on the hull or if it comes from the TM mechanism, so I am not sure if this applies.
    My 2014 RT188 hull came from the factory with a 65# MG mounted directly to the aluminum bow. It had a vibration noise that increased with the speed of the motor and was very distracting. After trying tightening everything possible, I only solved the problem by mounting a piece of plywood under the deck and running the mounting bolts through it. It took this additional support to stop and or dampen the vibration.
    This pics shows rubber isolators but in the final solution, I eliminated those and used fender washers and lock nuts.
    Years ago I had a MG it had those rubber type mounts like that and that TM rocked all over the place!! I removed them and it helped alot but the mount itself had alot of flex in it.
    That was the only MG tm I ever had.
    I have never had any of my MK tm's do that
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    Quote Originally Posted by stratos284 View Post
    Years ago I had a MG it had those rubber type mounts like that and that TM rocked all over the place!! I removed them and it helped alot but the mount itself had alot of flex in it.
    That was the only MG tm I ever had.
    I have never had any of my MK tm's do that
    I agree. I initially used the rubber isolators in the plywood because I thought it would help dampen the vibration. It helped but as you said, the motor was all over the place. Bolting the motor through the plywood using fender washers solved the problem. I don't want to start a MG/MK debate but I will share this experience.
    Ranger replaced the 2014 hull with a 2016 and moved all my equipment over to the new hull, but did not move the plywood I had mounted under the bow. However, I had them mount an 80# MK MAXXUM instead of the MG. There was no noise or vibration and it continues to be quiet 2 years later.

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    I wasnt trying to start a motor war.
    The MG I had was a very stout and good tm
    Every boat Ive bought since that one has had MK's on it all of them were/are good too.
    I do prefer the MK's but I would use either brand until it was worn out
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    I use the rubber isolators since the larger holes were factory done for them with the original motor that I never used, BUT I cut off the threaded insert and use a fender washer and nylock nut under the deck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judson1 View Post
    It’s a Motor Guide Digital Tour 70 lb thrust. I have opened the plastic faceplate cover that has a few switches on it. I have reached in there to feel for any nuts attached to the above bolts. Just yesterday I tightened again from above and was able to turn each just a fraction. I’m pretty sure from memory (I’ve had it off before looking for the same problem) there are threaded inserts and no nuts on this setup. The six bolts are all 2 hands turning as hard as possible with a screwdriver. I could try a drill, but don’t want to strip the Phillips head tops. I was just wondering if it was just an aluminum boat problem or specific to my setup. I know Minn Kotas thrust comes on gradually whereas Motor Guide seems to hit at once. It’s just aggravating to here the pop and see the base slightly rock side to side with each press of the button.
    I've used a similar Motorguide since 2004 (first on a Triton V176Mag) and I've cut a thin piece of wood to fill the gap between the bottom of the aluminum frame and the deck of the boat so that when the frame wants to rock back there is no place for it to go. And with some silicone adhesive it will stay there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Reynolds View Post
    It is unclear to me if your problem relates to the motor flexing on the hull or if it comes from the TM mechanism, so I am not sure if this applies.
    My 2014 RT188 hull came from the factory with a 65# MG mounted directly to the aluminum bow. It had a vibration noise that increased with the speed of the motor and was very distracting. After trying tightening everything possible, I only solved the problem by mounting a piece of plywood under the deck and running the mounting bolts through it. It took this additional support to stop and or dampen the vibration.
    This pics shows rubber isolators but in the final solution, I eliminated those and used fender washers and lock nuts.
    I had to do the same thing on a 1985 Fisher Marine Marsh Hawk that I had. The MG TM was mounted with those rubber isolator deals right on an aluminum stand on the left side of the bow. it not only creaked and groaned, but eventually the aluminum stand developed cracks around the bolt holes. I had the cracks welded and then mounted a piece of plywood underneath the trolling motor stand. That solved the problem.
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    I recently replaced the shoulder bolts at the pivot point where the base and main arm connect. While doing it I noticed something. The base has 12 (6 rows) pre drilled holes. But for some reason the factory installed the bolts (from front of boat going back) on the first, third, and fifth rows. The very back is what seems to rock so I think I may drill and boat and secure it to that sixth row.
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    The rubber isolators do more harm than good! You want a rock solid mount, not one that flexes.

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    My 80lb Motorguide doesn't flex my tin at all. Don't remember if I used the rubber isolators or not but I know it sure doesn't wiggle any!
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    You need to carpet and then sandwich a board in there. I used a poplar board. Its nice and hard plus resistant to rot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gsmith223 View Post
    You need to carpet and then sandwich a board in there. I used a poplar board. Its nice and hard plus resistant to rot
    The only way I see to get in there is through the small (4x6 inch maybe?) trolling motor plug dash. I drilled another set of holes so the very back end has support. But when I tried it yesterday it was only minimally better. I wonder if the inserts the factory installed (pictured) is part of the problem? They are raised off the boats surface a little. So a flat surface is basically impossible to obtain.
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    Do you know if your trolling motors are simply bolt and nut or do you have the threaded inserts like I do?
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