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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryanmc57 View Post
    Alcohol causes 100% of drunk driving fatalities, it must be banned as well.
    Not advocating for drunk driving but the law on alcohol and driving is skewed to make that number correct. A drunk driver is automatically at fault by law whether they caused the accident or not.

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    Lets start by banning behavioral altering drugs being dispensed to our kids.

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    [QUOTE=Beast;9109394]Lets start by banning behavioral altering drugs being dispensed to our kids.[/QUOTE


    Wouldn't we have to ban all behavioral altering drugs for everyone? I get the adults making choices and personal responsibility part for adults, but do we want to ban something that might truly be needed for a childs well being. Perhaps maybe we should have tighter controls on experts or parents who say little johnny is acting crazy so let's prescribe something now. Even the MJ debates suggest medicinal value and it can also be mind altering. I'm totally with you on the problem but just like guns being banned, it is an area that is slippery. One might even argue if you take the mind altering drugs out then it will only be better to ban all guns along with it thus taking all the equations out. Unfortunately some would still slip through the cracks if such laws were enacted. I don't know the answers but holding each person and parent accountable seems to be the best start.

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    Lets start by banning behavioral altering drugs being dispensed to our kids.[/QUOTE


    Wouldn't we have to ban all behavioral altering drugs for everyone? I get the adults making choices and personal responsibility part for adults, but do we want to ban something that might truly be needed for a childs well being. Perhaps maybe we should have tighter controls on experts or parents who say little johnny is acting crazy so let's prescribe something now. Even the MJ debates suggest medicinal value and it can also be mind altering. I'm totally with you on the problem but just like guns being banned, it is an area that is slippery. One might even argue if you take the mind altering drugs out then it will only be better to ban all guns along with it thus taking all the equations out. Unfortunately some would still slip through the cracks if such laws were enacted. I don't know the answers but holding each person and parent accountable seems to be the best start.
    I agree with your statement, but at this point in time I think they are being prescribed too freely by doctors not fully knowledgeable in that field of medicine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.O.C. 989 View Post

    I agree with your statement, but at this point in time I think they are being prescribed too freely by doctors not fully knowledgeable in that field of medicine.
    Definitely agree with you on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TampaJim View Post
    ...Time to ban the NRA...
    You've made your stance regarding the 2A clear, but now I'm a bit confused...

    Are you for banning ALL free speech, or do you wish to retain the right to interpret the 1st Amendment and apply its freedoms selectively to only those with whom you agree?
    Who controls John Gill?

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    Id rather pay teachers what they are worth while arming them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beast View Post
    Lets start by banning behavioral altering drugs being dispensed to our kids.
    And this! Glad to see some free thinkers on here instead of all the sheeple!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beast View Post
    Lets start by banning behavioral altering drugs being dispensed to our kids.[/QUOTE


    Wouldn't we have to ban all behavioral altering drugs for everyone? I get the adults making choices and personal responsibility part for adults, but do we want to ban something that might truly be needed for a childs well being. Perhaps maybe we should have tighter controls on experts or parents who say little johnny is acting crazy so let's prescribe something now. Even the MJ debates suggest medicinal value and it can also be mind altering. I'm totally with you on the problem but just like guns being banned, it is an area that is slippery. One might even argue if you take the mind altering drugs out then it will only be better to ban all guns along with it thus taking all the equations out. Unfortunately some would still slip through the cracks if such laws were enacted. I don't know the answers but holding each person and parent accountable seems to be the best start.
    Meth is not needed by anyone especially children, being prescribed does not make it right!
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    Definitely agree with you on that.
    Pharma has every news man and politician on their payroll.
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    Nobody needs a gun that holds more than 5 shots nobody period....not civilians anyway..I personally think that's a lot of the problem..
    Who do you think you are?

    With most all of the shooters being leftist maybe they shouldn't be able to own guns!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hatcreek View Post
    You've made your stance regarding the 2A clear, but now I'm a bit confused...

    Are you for banning ALL free speech, or do you wish to retain the right to interpret the 1st Amendment and apply its freedoms selectively to only those with whom you agree?
    It seems Jim has confused a series of horrific but unrelated crimes with tyranny, then suggested more actual tyranny is the answer to solving a problem with crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridgerunner11 View Post
    Nobody needs a gun that holds more than 5 shots nobody period....not civilians anyway..I personally think that's a lot of the problem..

    Go into chicago or any other bad neighborhood with only 5 rounds....................better hope it's only 1 person, and not a gang that jumps you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 188Musky View Post
    It seems Jim has confused a series of horrific but unrelated crimes with tyranny, then suggested more actual tyranny is the answer to solving a problem with crime.
    Are you going to align “tyranny” with firearm control?
    I’m not suggesting at all that citizens not own weapons.
    Why couldn’t they be kept at home, ready to utilize?
    When called to assemble as a militia, nothing more.

    It’s damn obvious things don’t work now, nowhere close.
    And more weapons isn’t the answer, it’s become worse.
    Our kids aren’t safe, doesn’t that warrant conversation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TampaJim View Post
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    Time to ban the NRA and sit down to find VIABLE answers to secure our country. The enemy isn’t outside, it’s within.
    Your all for banning anything you don't support, your entitled to your opinions, but not what you feel others should or shouldn't support.I have notice many with your line of thinking support " love thy neighbor or we'll beat you senseless" mentality.

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    Pretty sure the criminals have them at home waiting to utilize them in the next few hours or minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beast View Post
    Your all for banning anything you don't support, your entitled to your opinions, but not what you feel others should or shouldn't support.I have notice many with your line of thinking support " love thy neighbor or we'll beat you senseless" mentality.
    I’m all for banning political action committees, lobbyists, etc.
    They’ve 100% managed to pervert our system of government.
    It’s being driven by special interest power/money/influence at this point.
    The US Congress, and other leaders, now serve themselves.

    Don’t kid yourself, the NRA has long lost it’s original purpose.
    But they aren’t alone by any means. But they are the current issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TampaJim View Post
    Are you going to align “tyranny” with firearm control?
    I’m not suggesting at all that citizens not own weapons.
    Why couldn’t they be kept at home, ready to utilize?
    When called to assemble as a militia, nothing more.

    It’s damn obvious things don’t work now, nowhere close.
    And more weapons isn’t the answer, it’s become worse.
    Our kids aren’t safe, doesn’t that warrant conversation?
    Our kids are safe in the big picture, and the small picture.

    The fact is, that kids die every day from lots of preventable things. School shootings are way, way, down on the list, no matter how much emotion you attach to this one.

    I am aligning firearm control with tyranny; history is littered with this pairing. There's a reason that it's #2 on the list of God-given rights our Founders defined to escape tyranny. This you cannot deny.

    You're obviously not a person that uses a gun for anything. Don't you think that maybe you should find out what they are like to use, and what they are properly used for, before you form these opinions you have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 188Musky View Post
    I am aligning firearm control with tyranny; history is littered with this pairing. There's a reason that it's #2 on the list of God-given rights our Founders defined to escape tyranny. This you cannot deny.

    You're obviously not a person that uses a gun for anything. Don't you think that maybe you should find out what they are like to use, and what they are properly used for, before you form these opinions you have?
    Firearm control = Tyranny = Canada. Got it finally.
    I’m at aware enough to know my gun is for fun.

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    More children died in FY 2015 from parental abuse and neglect than died in school shootings. Chew on that one for a while...

    https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubPDFs/fatality.pdf


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