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  1. Member MIKER2702's Avatar
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    #21
    Was wondering if they would be hard to prop like suzukis.
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    The looks suck ...like kissing your sister....oh sorry I'm 2 far north to be cracking jokes....lol

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by rocketman6965 View Post
    With 3.4 liters, there is lots of room for growth. 250, 300, etc. Looks great. 1.85 gears though would that mean repropping if repowering from same HP i.e. 1.75 gears?
    More than likely they will turn more rpm (than the same hp Opti)... so it might work out that the same prop works well, you just get a better holeshot
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    Quote Originally Posted by berudd View Post
    Meh. Disappointed that the 175 is not on the 3.0 block. Not a ton heavier but still not what I was hoping for. Also ugly as homemade soap. Worse than the G2 I think. Guess I’ll stick with my 150 Optimax or go to a 175 SHO. I’ll be upgrading in a few years so I’ll guess I’ll be goin SHO.
    No replacement for displacement either....

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    It'd be nice to see a 6500 RPM 250 and 300

    Quote Originally Posted by J Risco View Post
    More than likely they will turn more rpm (than the same hp Opti)... so it might work out that the same prop works well, you just get a better holeshot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boondock View Post
    Have fun with buying all new controls and the more $$$$ sho motor. Damn you bass guys are crazy obsessed with looks. Would rather have it look cool than perform better
    Which is why I said I’d probably stick with the Optimax. When I upgrade it will be a new boat with a SHO, not a repower. And yes, looks matter. I fish for enjoyment so why buy something I think looks bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xb03fs View Post
    No replacement for displacement either....
    If your only intent is peak HP, yes. But there are other things that matter as well that often means a smaller engine fits the need better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by berudd View Post
    If your only intent is peak HP, yes. But there are other things that matter as well that often means a smaller engine fits the need better.
    Not trying to argue with you but what things would those be? Weight is not a big enough factor to even worrg about 475 lbs for the 175 v6 and the pro xs 150 is 358. Negligable at best. You have been pushing for the 175 on the 3.0l I4 platform and thats fine but a v6 of the same hp will outperform it by alot especially a DOHC v6 that thing as i can imagine will flat run.
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    #29
    I'd like to see the torque curve of each compared to the current 2-stroke Pro XS's...if the same or better I then want to know how soon I can get one with a jet foot. I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a 200 Pro XS and with these being lighter, quieter and more fuel efficient it's a no brainer...but the low end torque is a must for the jet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basstrackeroptimax View Post
    Not trying to argue with you but what things would those be? Weight is not a big enough factor to even worrg about 475 lbs for the 175 v6 and the pro xs 150 is 358. Negligable at best. You have been pushing for the 175 on the 3.0l I4 platform and thats fine but a v6 of the same hp will outperform it by alot especially a DOHC v6 that thing as i can imagine will flat run.
    Yeah, I know you’re not. Size and weight. Also perhaps efficiency but I’m not an automotive engineer. Perhaps I only wanted 175 HP. Can I do it in a smaller, lighter more efficient package in the 3.0L block than I can in the 3.4L block? Maybe, I don’t know. Perhaps with the 3.4L block limited to 175HP they can create crap tons of torque that lets me swing a really big wheel. Maybe the weight difference is nothing but with a 175HP motor being aimed a 18’ boats I’d think going smaller and lighter would be best.
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    #31
    I really like the looks of the new 4 strokes. I wonder if the 250 and up will have a little more displacement? Eitherway I'm sure they will perform very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buck456 View Post
    I really like the looks of the new 4 strokes. I wonder if the 250 and up will have a little more displacement? Eitherway I'm sure they will perform very well.
    I was wondering that too. Something to make 250 and above.

    I looked up the 175 SHO and it is listed as heavier than the new Merc. That has me scratching my head a bit. A bigger V6 is lighter than the smaller I4? Interesting. My pessimists side has me thinking the 475lbs came from the marketing department and is not accurate. The worse thought is it’s that light but at the expense of durability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by berudd View Post
    I was wondering that too. Something to make 250 and above.

    I looked up the 175 SHO and it is listed as heavier than the new Merc. That has me scratching my head a bit. A bigger V6 is lighter than the smaller I4? Interesting. My pessimists side has me thinking the 475lbs came from the marketing department and is not accurate. The worse thought is it’s that light but at the expense of durability.
    The weight is accurate. Engine was designed for best economy, torque AND lightest weight in it's class. And yes... there are 4 cylinder models in that class.

    Might try some curiosity on before you set your mind. I think you'll be quite surprised if you get to test-run one of them.


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    Several questions keep coming up...'why no 250'? Well...remember what was stated in the release "This is Step 1 of what's coming in 2018'. Step 1 is the base foundation of the 'concept'. Step 2 & 3 will most likely be what is really the game changer for us Bass guys !!!!
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    Wonder if the MercMoniter will work with these?

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    Why wouldn't it? It works with the latest and greatest Verado. I'd bet on it

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    Wonder if the MercMoniter will work with these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketman6965 View Post
    Why wouldn't it? It works with the latest and greatest Verado. I'd bet on it
    There was a video posted by a merc rep stating these motors will work with tradition opti controls as well as digital Verado if your pocketbook allows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boondock View Post
    Have fun with buying all new controls and the more $$$$ sho motor. Damn you bass guys are crazy obsessed with looks. Would rather have it look cool than perform better
    I represent that remark. I’m a bass guy and run a Yamaha. I have no problem going with a Mercury and could careless about what’s out back as long as it RELIABLE! I’ll be do for a re power in a few years so I’ll be keeping a close eye on Mercury.
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    U think the 250 will be announced this weekend?
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    The new 4 strokes are priced virtually the same as the Optimax currently. And yes, the weight is exact at 475

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