Other than somethng like a keitech or other swimbait, what do you all use as a trailer for a swimbait or chatterbait?
Other than somethng like a keitech or other swimbait, what do you all use as a trailer for a swimbait or chatterbait?
Peca craw or Fluke
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I will sometimes use a Zoom Speed Craw or something with less action like a fluke
The old twin tail spinnerbait trailers work extremely well.
THIS^^^. I use a Zoom Split Tail Trailer about 90% of the time. I want my vibrating jigs to "hunt." Using a paddle tail swim bait or a trailer with two appendages acts to stabilize the bait and keep it from "hunting."Originally Posted by 11pounder
This is normal speed:
This is slow motion:
#1 is a bait that basically comes back straight. #2 is a bait that "hunts" very well. #3 "hunts" moderately well.
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For swim jigs I've been on grubs 99% on the time and have had a ton of success with that. I typed out a bunch on that in that thread, so I won't rehash it here.
For chatterbaits, I really like something that does very little on it's own. I've thrown them with boot tail swimbaits and the like and completely agree with what Mr Hahn suggests. It really seems like the action of the trailer will counteract the action of the blade. Instead I like the twin tails as was mentioned, a fluke, or my new favorite - the Z-man Razor ShadZ. It is very similar to a Yamamoto Zako except basically indestructible since it's made out of Elaztech. Incredible action on a chatterbait that works with the vibration of the blade. Put a dab of super glue on the hook shank, slide it on, and it'll outlast the rest of the bait. Has a very nice broad profile that I think mimics the shape of a panfish far better than other trailers, and panfish are the primary forage here in MN.
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Best i have found is either your keitech swimbaits or the Strike King Rage Menace, fits on there perfectly with just the right amount hanging out the back.
Cool videos. What is the difference between bait 1, 2, and 3? They all appear to have the same trailer.
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I don't do much with swimjigs per say but I do like to throw chatterbaits. About the only trailer I use other than a Lake Fork Magic Shad is a Zoom Horney Toad or sometimes a twin tail grub.
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My two favorites require a bit of modification. I use a Yamamoto Swim Senko with about 1.5" cut from the nose end. I also use a Baby Brush hog cut right below the first set of arms. Both of these just seem to get bit. The brush hog usually works better in more colored water, the senko in clearer. 90% of the time it's a watermelon gold flake on a bluegill colored bait but will also use pearl on a shad color chatterbait.
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The differences in the baits are very subtle, but make for huge differences in action. #2 is an Original RAD Chatterbait, made before ZMan bought out RAD. Most of the Original RAD baits I have "hunt" right out of the package. #1 and #3 are homemade baits. Some can be tuned to hunt and some can't. Tuning involves bending the line tie forward or backward a tiny bit at a time. It takes a lot of experimenting with each bait to tune it. Apparently identical baits can be very different, so there is no magic formula. The skirts and trailers on each bait in the video are the same.
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Strike King Blade Minnow
Strike King Rage Twin Tail Baby Menace Grub
Lake Fork Tackle Live Magic Shad
HUH you made it sound like the skirt made the difference weather it would hunt or not....... i got excited lol i do very good fishing chatterbaits ive experimented with about every trailer you can think of and keitechs and lake fork swimmers seem to be the best for me could you explain how to tune a chatterbait to hunt a touch more id really like to give that a try thanks
ALSO do you have some d-baits youd like to sell haha i see your avatar is d-baits so im guessing you have a stock pile of them!!
I Like a Strike King menace grub for swim jigs and a Zoom Speed craw for chatterbaits. That was a great video Jeff
Thanks for the great feedback.
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Interesting, thanks for the clarification. I did notice in the 1/2 speed video that the hunting action was triggered by the blade stalling (for lack of a better word) momentarily causing the lure to plane to one side till it started vibrating again. Makes sense that modifying the line tie and/or the blade attachment point could cause this hunting action.
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Andrew
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