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    Quote Originally Posted by BleedingBlue View Post
    The correct term is advice
    Advice is a noun
    Advise is a verb
    http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/g...vice-or-advise

    See....this is helpful....
    I'd agree with you , but then we would both be wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazorCat View Post
    I was in a similar situation a few years back with a supervisor one step above me. He overstepped and made some changes to personnel assignments in the region I was over. I knew my personnel’s strengths and weaknesses, and the changes were of no value to getting the job done. I delayed the changes being implemented until I was in DC where he was located. I met with him face to face and asked him straight up if he trusted my judgement when it came to running my region effectively. He responded in the affirmative. But, stated he wanted the changes made regardless. I requested a meeting with him and the CIO to discuss the changes and how it would impact my region. I was respectful, but stood my ground and told the CIO the changes would hurt job efficiency, and that I would cross-train my people just as effectively while they continued in their current assignments. The CIO agreed, and told me to run my region as I saw fit. Meet with him and the person who is over you both.
    Ask the same questions and see what his strategy is, or if he has one. Stick to your guns and carry it up the chain if you feel that strongly about it.

    And don’t sell yourself short getting a start with an Associates Degree. That’s what started with when I got my first supervisory position. I continued my education as I moved up. And management above you should typically look at furthering your education as a positive. A full college degree, while admirable, doesn’t make one a good supervisor, and anything less doesn’t make one a bad supervisor. Education is only a small part of the formula for what makes a good supervisor. People have to like, or at the very least, respect their boss if they ever expect to get something done.
    ^Great advice! Being upfront and meeting with this person along with the manager also bodes well for you, if (God forbid) the "a whole" turns out to be your boss at some point (through some highly unfortunate turn of events... that stuff really happens).

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    Quote Originally Posted by kissfan4 View Post
    Its just the fact that some can not let the little things go, they have to nit pick. They overlook what is trying to be conveyed and focus on the error the person made, turning it into a joke. I think this is what is irritating me so bad about this. They would be the ones, that if i were to state the fact that my wife is dying of cancer, but typed "dyeing" by accident because i am a little distracted, that is all they would focus on. To hell with what he is trying to say, he doesn't know the difference between "dying and dyeing", or "whole and hole", and that shows his level of intelligence/knowledge.
    You should go on another forum and whine....oops, I mean "vent" about the way that people are treating you on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kissfan4 View Post
    Its just the fact that some can not let the little things go, they have to nit pick. They overlook what is trying to be conveyed and focus on the error the person made, turning it into a joke. I think this is what is irritating me so bad about this. They would be the ones, that if i were to state the fact that my wife is dying of cancer, but typed "dyeing" by accident because i am a little distracted, that is all they would focus on. To hell with what he is trying to say, he doesn't know the difference between "dying and dyeing", or "whole and hole", and that shows his level of intelligence/knowledge.


    To me, the problem isn't the word being spelled wrong or misused - whichever way you want to view it - as much as it is the irony of the original poster claiming this person doesn't 'know their ass from a whole in the ground', as a way to proclaim he is better.


    One thing I have learned on here....if you are going to come on here and proclaim how much better you are than someone else, or how much better your 'type' or 'position' or whatever, is from others, you better make darn sure you spell everything correctly, and correctly use the words you type. Otherwise, you will get pinged on that much worse.


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    The Big Boss decided to put a engineering manager over my work discipline. I asked if I would be considered for the position. He said most certainly because of your experience and the jobs positions you've held.
    I put in my resume and a few days later I received an email from HR that stated I could not be considered for the job due to not having a degree. So now I spend my time training my new boss and his engineers how to do their work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RazorCat View Post
    I was in a similar situation a few years back with a supervisor one step above me. He overstepped and made some changes to personnel assignments in the region I was over. I knew my personnel’s strengths and weaknesses, and the changes were of no value to getting the job done. I delayed the changes being implemented until I was in DC where he was located. I met with him face to face and asked him straight up if he trusted my judgement when it came to running my region effectively. He responded in the affirmative. But, stated he wanted the changes made regardless. I requested a meeting with him and the CIO to discuss the changes and how it would impact my region. I was respectful, but stood my ground and told the CIO the changes would hurt job efficiency, and that I would cross-train my people just as effectively while they continued in their current assignments. The CIO agreed, and told me to run my region as I saw fit. Meet with him and the person who is over you both.
    Ask the same questions and see what his strategy is, or if he has one. Stick to your guns and carry it up the chain if you feel that strongly about it.
    Did you find that the outcome poisoned your relationship even further with the supervisor? I can picture many scenarios where it's a no-win for you the minute they acted and made the changes. Egos are delicate things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ken1okie View Post
    The Big Boss decided to put a engineering manager over my work discipline. I asked if I would be considered for the position. He said most certainly because of your experience and the jobs positions you've held.
    I put in my resume and a few days later I received an email from HR that stated I could not be considered for the job due to not having a degree. So now I spend my time training my new boss and his engineers how to do their work.

    That is simply HR just following the check boxes....and your boss not doing anything about it.

    Where I work, there are many positions that list a degree as a requirement, but if you have a specified amount of experience in that position, the degree requirement is waived.

    Your boss (or the person who put in the job requisition) is the one who sets the minimum experience required to waive the degree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kissfan4 View Post
    I also applied for financial aid once more to hopefully get back in school, finish my last 2 classes, and graduate. Although it is only an Associates Degree, which i believe holds about as much value as a HS diploma, but maybe i will be able to find a really good paying job with it. Rant Over!!!
    DO NOT MESS WITH STUDENT LOANS!!! Especially for an AD, made that mistake years ago and i'm still paying for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by kissfan4 View Post
    Grammar police, with nothing better to do!
    Not exactly. Although the responses are making it worth the post.
    If one just spells a word wrong, that's for the grammar police.
    But if a person spells a word wrong and said word has a different meaning. It might have the appearance of a said person not knowing their...... from a hole in the ground.
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    i LOVE YOU ASSWHOLES!!!
    Theirs a hole bunch of them

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    ^Great advice! Being upfront and meeting with this person along with the manager also bodes well for you, if (God forbid) the "a whole" turns out to be your boss at some point (through some highly unfortunate turn of events... that stuff really happens).

    We went through a period where we didn’t talk much with the exception of work related subjects.
    That passed with time, and I made a gesture a few month down the road after I had kept my promise and crossed trained the personnel in my region WHILE getting the job done efficiently. He simply told me let’s keep it at our level and not involve the CIO in the future. It worked out fine. The region I supervised covered Texas, Arkansas, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Louisiana, amd Mississippi.
    He was located in DC. I rarely saw him anyway.
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    op is overqualified and his bosses wont fix the issue because he will eventually replace them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hatcreek View Post
    I can't recall whether it ranks just above or just below ending a sentence with a preposition on the BBC syntax infraction continuum.
    What do taxes have to do with this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murph View Post
    What do taxes have to do with this at?
    FIFY Murph
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    Hell we hired a colored blind person to run the color lad at a paint company I worked at ...I said f this and turned my two weeks in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOUCH OF CLASS View Post
    Hell we hired a colored blind person to run the color lad at a paint company I worked at ...I said f this and turned my two weeks in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOUCH OF CLASS View Post
    Hell we hired a colored blind person to run the color lad at a paint company I worked at ...I said f this and turned my two weeks in.
    Funny stuff right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOUCH OF CLASS View Post
    Hell we hired a colored blind person to run the color lad at a paint company I worked at ...I said f this and turned my two weeks in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenHo View Post
    This is not about spelling or grammar. What Dan is referring to is definition. All of the words Dan lists are words we should all have known the meaning of by sixth grade. You may not care but, the words you use and how you use them do reflect on your level of knowledge. Typos just show a lack of care, in not caring enough to do simple proof reading. Actual mis spelling, IMO, could be looked over if not for the wide spread availability of spell checkers. An occasional typo or mis spelling is going to slip through. Wrong definitions, not so much.
    Kiss, I don't really think Dan was picking on you. You had one error that could have been a typo or could have been not knowing the correct word. Not that big of a deal. To me and perhaps Dan, it is amazing how many threads contain multiple spelling errors, and incorrect usage in a single post.
    I actually don't care one way or the other how people perceive others for their apparent lack of basic education. For myself, I do like to put my best foot forward. Just another view point and as Dan said, "Words have meaning".
    He is posting to a fishing message board who gives a shit. All it shows is he didn't proof read a post to a message board. Why does anyone worry or even bring it up. Talk about hijacking a thread to make yourself feel important. Keep the thread on topic. If you want to be a grammar teacher get a degree in education.

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    That would be "prospective". I love irony.

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