She should have choices after murdering someone. The choices should be what method of death does she prefer for herself.
She should have choices after murdering someone. The choices should be what method of death does she prefer for herself.
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This. This this this.Originally Posted by njpaulc
I think it's absolutely mind boggling that, in a country that prides itself on "freedom," so many people see nothing wrong with the government supporting a single religion and stamping down others. Freedom of religion was one of the main pillars if not the main pillar upon which America was founded! Yet here we sit.
Take the prison out of it if you want to do so - these same people see nothing wrong with the government creating laws based on that single religion, displaying monuments in support of that single religion, or persecuting its citizens in the name of that single religion. And before you make assumptions: I'm someone who generally considers myself a follower of that single religion, though sometimes its hard when other followers of that single religion take it upon themselves to pass judgment in spite of what the sacred texts say.
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Take a breath, all religions are practiced if that's what the inmates want, Islam is a big one in this particular Prison. The suit is singling out The Christians I believe as no other religion was named in the article.
wrong,,, the suit is singling out the state sponsored christian religion
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The State sponsors nothing. The different religions are given an area to use, participation is not mandatory and you are not punished if you do not wish to attend. You would be punished if you interfered with the participating group. There are several religions being practiced and the service is all volunteer and has been requested by inmates, the State grants the requests as a Religious impartial body. If she asked for an area to practice her "religion" the State would grant that request. Native Americans have an area for Sweat Lodge and no religion has been denied to practice unless it was a security risk. The State neither condones nor condems any reasonable request. She has no paperwork to show any abuse or complaints by her up to this point. NO staff member would be kept if they forced Religion on an inmate.
People have completely screwed up the interpretation of the separation of church and state. It was NEVER meant to keep religion out of government, it was meant to keep the government from screwing with religion. As long as know one is forcing her to practice a religion and allowing her to practice her religion there shouldn't be a problem.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion... this part right here plainly disproves your interpretation. Religion is just made up fairy tales to control people anyway, it has no place in government.
Would you say that is they were pushing Islam? The point is that we are protected from the government force a religion upon us. Prisoners do lose some rights by virtue of being incercerated but not all.
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" Establishment of religion". That means the Govt cannot create nor promote a particular religion. It does not prohibit the exercise of religion in Govt. Institutions.
If Christianity is practiced along with others as a personal choice its doubtful she will prevail.
The particulars of how much is being "forced" is lacking in the article. So the jury is out ..
Sorry, but this statement proves you don't understand the topic. The Constitution does not establish a separation of church and state. That phrase was used as an explanation for the philosophy behind the 1st Amendment. Someone else quoted 1A so I won't but that statement specifically says the government must stay out of religion.
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The witness has rights!!
Not Christianity. There is recorded history.
No there is not recorded history that proves the divinity of its namesake. There is recorded history of his existence. But there is recorded history of muhammads existence as well, i guess you consider his teachings as equally valid? No? Hahaha
The lawyers are the problem. They desperately need money and that is why she is suing.
Her only right is her choice of her last meal
Should have been already put down.
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No, it proves my statement.
Which is exactly what I said. Government can't go screwing around in religion, exactly what I said. BUT, big BUT, that doesn't mean that there can't be religion in the government. If we didn't have religion in the government we wouldn't even have the laws we started with, we wouldn't have had a church IN the whitehouse, wouldn't have held prayer before EVERY congressional meeting, wouldn't have ANY moral basis in which to live by. So no, government can't go making laws to promote a single religion but it doesn't mean they can't use their religion as a basis. So yes, there can be religion in government, there always has been
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The same could be said for our history books yet you believe those. What's the difference?
History books have multiple corroborating sources. Well, they used to. Seem a few tend to get rewritten here and there.
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The bible is made of different books with corroborating stories. I won't argue that it doesn't take faith to believe it all, it does. It just takes more to try and refute it if you lay it all out there. I've said this before but I'm not some great apologist and can't answer all the arguments, personally I don't need to, I believe what I know to be true, same as everyone else. There are plenty of places easily accessible if someone wants to learn as little or as much as they would like. I also know where this thread will start heading and how it will end up, the same as always
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