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    From what I understand its a pretty common practice to hire people to "protest".

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    Quote Originally Posted by DvKing
    2. The statue coming down in Durham might be a great thing. Finally, many fathers can return home to their children, and children's mothers to live as a family and provide for each other, raise the kids together, see that school is attended and homework is completed and checked over. Test scores and grades will rise and kids futures will be more secure. The extra family household income will increase and many can get off the embarrassing government programs. Those government funds can then be used for other pressing needs, thus helping even more people with a hand up in a time of need.

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    2. Most of the marchers in Charletsville and Durham were law abiding, tax paying citizens like you and I. I can take you to areas of my state that have government dependent families, rapant crime, meth labs and poor test scores yet they don't have a minority citizen in site. Stereotypes aren't really helpful in this debate and a movement towards unity.
    I don't see minorities mentioned anywhere in his post. Why inject that in the convo? Agenda much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DennisMH&F View Post
    1. As everyone knows, the first shots of the Civil War were fired by the rebels at Fort Sumter. This was quickly followed by additional attempts to seize other Federal property (armories and forts). If that happened today the federal government would rightfully respond the same way as Lincoln.

    2. Most of the marchers in Charletsville and Durham were law abiding, tax paying citizens like you and I. I can take you to areas of my state that have government dependent families, rapant crime, meth labs and poor test scores yet they don't have a minority citizen in site. Stereotypes aren't really helpful in this debate and a movement towards unity.
    As for number 1, you need to examine the events leading up to Fort Sumter. It's not quite as cut and dried as you say it is.

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    Here is a pic from another site. This was from the LARGE protest.. Even the media gets trolled..


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    Quote Originally Posted by LewStulePH.D. View Post
    Here is a pic from another site. This was from the LARGE protest.. Even the media gets trolled..


    What are you trying to show? How few neo nazi, white supremacist and KKK members there actually are in America? If that's all the participation they can get after months of planning, are normal, sane, civilized people suppose to believe the hype that there is a rise in their membership as the media portrays and that minorities should be fearful?

    It's hard to get actual numbers for supremacy groups but let say it is 50,000 (which is about double what most experts assume). The population of the USA is 320 million so white supremacy membership would make up 0.015% of the populqtion.

    Fringe extremes will always exist on both sides. This is nothing but a mob mentality being fed by a media frenzy.

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    "No to GMO's"?? How the heck did that get in there?

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    "No to GMO's"?? How the heck did that get in there?
    When you're paid, you don't care about sign relevance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warcry View Post
    When you're paid, you don't care about sign relevance.

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    Maybe GMO stands for something else now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TampaJim View Post
    Which of you plan to go home and tell the wife and kids that they are banned from Six Flags??
    Six Flags Over Texas, in Arlington, has pulled the Confederate (Stars and Bars) from it's display.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom G. View Post
    As for number 1, you need to examine the events leading up to Fort Sumter. It's not quite as cut and dried as you say it is.
    I've studied them pretty closely, it's as cut and dry as Pearl Harbor. You can make excuses for war but only one party can be guilty of firing the first shot. Trying to glorify a war to preserve slavery is just as ridiculous as the Germans trying to justify the Holocaust. You can explain the horror but you can't justify it. The German government doesn't attempt to justify the Nazi's, we shouldn't either.

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    Comparing slavery to the halocaust is apples to oranges. It wasn't right, but millions weren't starved then killed just because.

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    Camp Sumter was a Confederate Prisoner-of-War Camp for Union soldiers, today a historic site located in Andersonville, Georgia, from which the prison derives its more well known name. Its conditions were little known from its opening in February 1864 until it was liberated in May 1865, one month after Lincoln was assassinated. When the mistreatment of prisoners came to light, the entire nation and even Europe were disgusted and dumbfounded by the photographs of horrifically emaciated prisoners who somehow found the strength to survive.

    The prison covered 25 and a half acres east of Andersonville, and was nothing but a bare patch of land surrounded by woods and fenced in twice. The outer fence was a log palisade 1,620 feet by 779 feet, with two entrances in the west wall leading into town. 19 feet in from this palisade stood an inner fence of chest-high posts topped with single crossbeams. This was nicknamed the dead line. Anyone who tried to cross it for the outer palisade, or even touched it, was shot without warning.

    Inside the camp, there were only eight small buildings that could house a total of about 100 men. The prison held 45,000 by the end of the war. Most were given tents in which to sit or sleep, but the Georgia summer was overwhelming. 13,000 of those men died within 7 months of summer incarceration from sunstroke, starvation, or disease. The entire prison population suffered from a hookworm epidemic, causing most of them to defecate bloody diarrhea filled with worms. Scurvy was also rampant, prisoners were able to pull out their own teeth with their fingers because of vitamin C deficiency. 3,000 died per month, or 100 per day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TampaJim View Post
    Camp Sumter was a Confederate Prisoner-of-War Camp for Union soldiers, today a historic site located in Andersonville, Georgia, from which the prison derives its more well known name. Its conditions were little known from its opening in February 1864 until it was liberated in May 1865, one month after Lincoln was assassinated. When the mistreatment of prisoners came to light, the entire nation and even Europe were disgusted and dumbfounded by the photographs of horrifically emaciated prisoners who somehow found the strength to survive.

    The prison covered 25 and a half acres east of Andersonville, and was nothing but a bare patch of land surrounded by woods and fenced in twice. The outer fence was a log palisade 1,620 feet by 779 feet, with two entrances in the west wall leading into town. 19 feet in from this palisade stood an inner fence of chest-high posts topped with single crossbeams. This was nicknamed the dead line. Anyone who tried to cross it for the outer palisade, or even touched it, was shot without warning.

    Inside the camp, there were only eight small buildings that could house a total of about 100 men. The prison held 45,000 by the end of the war. Most were given tents in which to sit or sleep, but the Georgia summer was overwhelming. 13,000 of those men died within 7 months of summer incarceration from sunstroke, starvation, or disease. The entire prison population suffered from a hookworm epidemic, causing most of them to defecate bloody diarrhea filled with worms. Scurvy was also rampant, prisoners were able to pull out their own teeth with their fingers because of vitamin C deficiency. 3,000 died per month, or 100 per day.
    History lesson? What do you want to do to change it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by warcry View Post
    When you're paid, you don't care about sign relevance.
    The small group with the signs is the free speech organization that the other group from the left was counter protesting. There's a lot of hatred in those signs of the free speech organization...(yes, that is sarcasm)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pa.X19 View Post
    History lesson? What do you want to do to change it?
    Obviously, Andersonville, Georgia should be torn down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullet20vee View Post
    Comparing slavery to the halocaust is apples to oranges. It wasn't right, but millions weren't starved then killed just because.
    The Holocaust estimated deaths were 6-9 million. Slave trade was 10-50 million, the wider range due to poor data and record keeping. Both are horrible and cruel. Many Holocaust victims were used for forced labor and died from starvation and disease along with the mass murders. The American slave trade involved torture, rape, disease and murder. Saying one was "better" than the other is splitting hairs in a sadistic manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partie Deux View Post
    Obviously, Andersonville, Georgia should be torn down.
    And we didn't even need a whole paragraph. Which I'm incapable of

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    Mans Inhumanity to his fellow man is boundless as History so aptly shows. Our remembering it won't change the past nor the future, unfortunately.
    Humans are flawed creations.

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