In a big 200+team tourney last year my partner caught an 8lber at around 8am. By weigh in it was dead. We only caught 4 keepers and after the 4oz dead fish penalty missed the money by 1oz and 1 spot. But we won the big fish pot by 2ozs for $1000. There rules were penalty from total weight only so i guess we were lucky or unlucky depending on how u look at it