So my boat had a 175 Johnson on it. The Ficht model. I'm wanting to re power with an Etec. Is the 175 worth and extra $1,000 over the 150. What performance difference should I expect. My boat is rated for a 200 but it's a 1998 model and I'm not concerned with extreme speed. I just want good overall performance.
i just took my 1996 175 intruder off and put on a 2017 150ho etec.. lost a couple mph on top end but burning half the fuel haha
Good overall performance can be achieved by utilizing the appropriate/best prop for your application. Still, 150 on a 200-rated boat is starting to get down there.
John Clark — Findlay, Ohio
$1000 bucks is nothing especially if you are financing, yes it will be worth it for sure. For resale it will be much better than a 150 as everyone will see it as under powered. The 200 would be the best for resale but a 175 HO will get you close to a 200 via the 10% rule.
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What's the 10 percent rule? I just figured underpowered is underpowered and overpowered is overpowered. Is it the rule everyone uses to overpower and think it is ok have no liability or issues legally.
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Coast Guard says 10% is the tolerance so it the boat is rated for 200 a 200 ho at 219.9 HP is legal. Post above is saying a 175 HO is more like a 192 as its very close to being near the high end of the 10% rule.
1996 STRATOS 278 V
1996 Intruder 150 HP
Model 150GLEDB Serial # 04148601
1991 335195 Heads
FICHT Reed Cages
Chris Carson Carbon Fiber Reeds
Large Bore Carbs
Prop Mark Croxton A45 15" X 23 Tempest
Props Owned/Tested: 23 Renegade, 23 Renegade B&B, 22 Raker, 24 Raker, 24 Raker B&B, 26 Raker, 26 Raker II, 24 Raker II, 23 Tempest, 24 Tempest, 24 Fury, 24 Trophy, 25 Renegade, 27 Renegade, 23 Razor 3.
I don't believe they make a 175 HO.....I would take the 175 over the 150 all day long....JMHO
Go max hp always....dropping 25% rated hp is not good.
Mike
2019 Ranger 520L w/ 250HO ETEC G2
2011 Tracker 175TXW w/ 75HO ETEC
If you have a 98 Ranger Hull then I would definitely go with the 175. My new boat has the new g2 150 on it and it is a great motor but my old boat was a 98 518dvs w/175 Johnson FICHT and it was a faster boat than what I have now. I think you would be disappointed with the 150 on a hull rated for 200. Like others said it will be worth more down the road.
2017 Ranger 518 w/ Evinrude 150HO G2
correct no 175 HO and the question was 150 or 175 etec. We dont have one, they do XS.... even the 150 HO would be around 164 hp at best.Originally Posted by Bassmeister
1996 STRATOS 278 V
1996 Intruder 150 HP
Model 150GLEDB Serial # 04148601
1991 335195 Heads
FICHT Reed Cages
Chris Carson Carbon Fiber Reeds
Large Bore Carbs
Prop Mark Croxton A45 15" X 23 Tempest
Props Owned/Tested: 23 Renegade, 23 Renegade B&B, 22 Raker, 24 Raker, 24 Raker B&B, 26 Raker, 26 Raker II, 24 Raker II, 23 Tempest, 24 Tempest, 24 Fury, 24 Trophy, 25 Renegade, 27 Renegade, 23 Razor 3.
Cant find any rule of reg stating a 10% variation. If you could, send me or post it up. Not being silly but I hear this all the time and then no one can show a reg/title/law ect in black and white stating a 10% rule. I get asked all the time and have no clear answer but just to tell them don't over power. This is just to educate me,,not being silly. I have found the rules and laws by the CG on calculating max horsepower but that's it.
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I don't know about the 10% rule either - but I don't know much so that is not surprising. But I would be worried about the insurance company you use. They look for any reason not to pay a claim.
This one is interesting and it gets more interesting as it goes. I will add to it. I read this on the internet so it must be true.
To answer the original question no it's not worth the $1000...based on the criteria you have I would look at the 150HO because it has around 165 HP and it has the lighting gearcase. There is no such thing as a 175HO and the 10% they refer to has 0% to do with the coast guard. The 10% deal is something that is the result of the body who governs the production of boat motors. I can't recall their name but they have a acronym they go by. Motor manufacturers (Evinrude,Mercury,Yamaha,Suzuki and so on) are not allowed to produce a motor that is 10% over what's advertised. A 150 can be 165 HP and still be called 150. The Evinrude HO models are tuned for max performance so they push the upper end of the 10% allowed and make close to 165 HP. Plus the HO model has a lighting gearcase whereas the non HO has a standard gearcase. For a bass boat the lighting gearcase is the better option.
If the motor is within 10% of advertised HP then its okay to sell as said HP. The Coast Guard regulates how much HP can be put on boats under 20. If a 150 has 165 HP then it is still a 150 by the manufacturing allowances so by default the coast guard allows it because technically its still called called a 150. It's name is HO. Look on the Evinrude website and find out what HO stands for. It's high output that is the result of factory tuned for max performance. Another example...Mercury does the same thing Opti Max and Opti Max Pro XS...the Pro XS is tuned to push the 10% max HP allowed.
There is no rule, law, or regulation concerning a 10% variation in advertised power output.
It is an agreement by marine engine manufacturers to abide by the international industry standards for horsepower determination as stated in ICOMIA 28-83.
You can GOOGLE ICOMIA or visit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...y_Associations
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The 200 is almost $3,000 more than a 150HO and $2000 more than a 175. My budget really has me leaning towards a 150HO. Does anyone have a recomendation on what dealer to use in or around NC? As long as I have good whole shot and can run 60 with decent mpg Ill be happy.
Going with the 10% rule...a 150HO is going to deliver approximately 165 hp..... the 175??? Take a guess....JMHO
How much are they looking to get for the new 150 out the door?
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Lets say the motor is $15,000 and with rigging $17,000. I would seriously consider dropping just a few more thousand and get a 200(min 175). You will be happy you did. (and whats 2-3000 dollars when your spending $15,000 plus for a motor you will have to live with for at least 5 years) JMO..........."I have good whole shot and can run 60 with decent mpg Ill be happy." .....may have to settle for one or the other with a 150 on a big boat...and fuel mileage can suffer some when a boat is underpowered also. More throttle to achieve a speed with 150 vs less throttle to achieve same speed with 200.......again. JMO
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Quoted me $13550 plus tax for a 150HO. That price is installed. 175 was $14000. 200 was $16000
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