when I started looking for replacements I was concerned that everyone I looked at seemed to say not for below water line use. Then after doing a little research I have come to the conclusion it is just a liability thing. So now just looking for the exact ones same dimensions in black I feel like am looking for big foot. Some or close but not exact just sucks when your looking on line and can't physically compare them to decide which one to use. One of the things I have noticed a lot of them don't seem to have as wide of a flange as the old ones which may not be a huge deal but when bedding it with 4200 it would be nice to have the wider flange in my opinion. Just curios if any of you had similar issues and what did you end up doing?