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Someone make sense of this weight rating. It's almost comical
20 ft nitro .Tag says 1000lbs or 1400 lbs persons motor and gear.
Comes from the factory with a 225 and a trolling motor and 3 batteries.
So I did some math
225 optimax .500lbs
40 gallons fuel -280 lbs
Livewells full - 200lbs
3x62 lb group 31s - 185
Trolling motor - 75 lbs
1240 lbs
I can't bring any tackle or even a lunch :( and have to lose 80lbs . Anyone else have a rating that's makes no sense?
Last edited by 12many; 04-25-2017 at 04:30 PM.
Nitro2023 triton allure 250 proxs
Garmin marine
prostaff
Back then motors were lighter and in the end the coast guard doesnt actually rate or care about that boat being over 20'
xpress x19, 200ho G2, aluminum sawtooth cut prop, paper sack tackle storage, ugly stik pro team, color c-lector
The Coast Guard rating system is truly a contorted exercise in bizarre mathematics. Talk to any boat builder and you will understand what I am talking about. There simply is no obvious rhym or reason to it (like a lot of other government regulations).
Here in Florida it is illegal to run an overpowered boat. Example - if the plate says 150, a 175 is illegal. However you can "hotrod" a 150 up to say 200 and you are perfectly legal.
Our government helping in every way they can.
But hey, it creates jobs, right ?
Last edited by Davecon; 04-25-2017 at 09:55 PM. Reason: Typo
What's always got me is why you can have an 18' jet boat with a big block chev and no one cares. Put a 175 on a boat rated for a 150 and you gonna die
Maybe cause a 454 at 400hp equals 60mph on most of those with the exception of a few of course
xpress x19, 200ho G2, aluminum sawtooth cut prop, paper sack tackle storage, ugly stik pro team, color c-lector
That is correct it takes a fairly nasty one to hang with the bullet and even fewer out there can hang with the 2.4 ;)Originally Posted by alli ss
but there are some out there that are sick and no one ever says anything about them being overrated. They don't even have rating stickers
Oh and slightly off topic but Robbie won't let me get rid of the possum now and I had to recatch him when I let him go and he and Ashely have now named him. FML
Lol. Sorry dude. On the bright side they loved it!!
xpress x19, 200ho G2, aluminum sawtooth cut prop, paper sack tackle storage, ugly stik pro team, color c-lector
I let him go again last night when they were asleep caught hell for it this morning lol.
Yea those tags are stupid on my boats example. I own a 2002 stratos 21xl magnum sticker says its rated for a 225. Its a 21 foot boat... And to add insult to injury I have a friend that owns a 2001 stratos 21ss extreme DC "same exact boat cant see any difference in the hull weight or anything" and its rated for a 250.... Kinda strange and bums me out because I would really love to put a 250 on it.
Similar story with my dad's Triton. His is a 20+ footer from I believe 2003 (TR-20, maybe?) that's rated for a 225. Then the next model year comes out, exactly the same hull, and it's rated for a 250. He repowered a couple years back and looked into getting the plate changed and found out that it'd be a whole lot more trouble than it was worth to do it legally, if it was even possible to do at all. Dumb. Especially given the fact that it's over 20 feet, yet those plates are the gospel when it comes to DNR / insurance enforcement.
2011 Skeeter ZX225
225 Yamaha HPDI Series 2
Minn Kota Ultrex 112 52"
Console: HDS 16 Carbon
Bow: HDS 12 Carbon, Solix 12 G2, Mega 360, Garmin 106 SV, LVS 34
My 2002 Stratos 21xl magnum says 250 hp on its plate.
Boats are built more for motor weight than hp. When 4 strokes first came out you could get a higher hp 2 stroke or the smaller hp 4 stroke. Builders eventually adjusted for the heavier 4 strokes.
My boat doesnt even have a plate. Take yours off. Dnr cant do anything about a boat the coast guard doesnt rate. Your mfr put that on there. They coulda put unlimited v8 or 90hp. Legally your boat isnt rated.
xpress x19, 200ho G2, aluminum sawtooth cut prop, paper sack tackle storage, ugly stik pro team, color c-lector
I actually suggested the same, but the insurance company already knew what it was rated for on the plate and that's what they wanted it to be. I'm not sure if switching insurance companies could've solved that or not.
2011 Skeeter ZX225
225 Yamaha HPDI Series 2
Minn Kota Ultrex 112 52"
Console: HDS 16 Carbon
Bow: HDS 12 Carbon, Solix 12 G2, Mega 360, Garmin 106 SV, LVS 34
Call bob from the insurance forum. Or just hop it up to 250 and call it a day
xpress x19, 200ho G2, aluminum sawtooth cut prop, paper sack tackle storage, ugly stik pro team, color c-lector
exactly my point... I have a 225 and the boat is plenty fast but still.
No rating on anything over 20ft... my insurance only asks if it meets coast guard regulations.
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1999 Triton TR-21PD
Mercury 300R
Anything over 20' 1" is entirely up to the manufacturer. A lot of these were made before the public 250 engines were out as 225 was once the preferred engine, just like 200 and 150 before those. They have a standard for horsepower using the rear 1/4 beam of the hull overall and the overall length. It's a pretty simple calculation. Capacities are not a simple calculation and require some math, though again the regulations change below 20' to USCG standards. N adding to that the USCG does not use actual engine weights, they have a table. That table is set to change in the near future due to four stroke weights.
My 2000'Ranger 520VX is rated 225 max. Had my 225 opti rebuilt 3 times and said the hell with it im putting a 250 pro xs on. Now my 2000 225 opt wieghed 515 and my 2015 250 pro xs is at 505lbs and that motor woke my boat up. It's beyound me why manufacturers will put a rating of less than 250 max hp. My boat is more than capable of handling a 250
2000 520vx Ranger
250 PRO XS
SERIAL#2B115788/ 25P Fury 4/ 25P Fury 3 blade
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