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    ClearVu and CV transducer update

    I have included the following FAQ links below to provide additional information regarding ClearVu and CV transducers:

    What is a CV transducer? https://support.garmin.com/faqSearch...la6A9BBfYjP9yA

    How are GT transducers different from CV transducers? https://support.garmin.com/faqSearch...Gm0ypilqQFGs0A

    What happened to DownVu? Does ClearVu replace it? https://support.garmin.com/faqSearch...AN6MYbK22pCtHA

    Is there a gap in coverage below the boat with a CV transducer? https://support.garmin.com/faqSearch...Uq5mM7FRHvIrHA

    What do I buy if my CV transducer needs replaced? https://support.garmin.com/faqSearch...YS0x6VoElvWKF8

    What is the ClearVu feature? https://support.garmin.com/faqSearch...Jd7hAMGV0ONFj8

    Does ClearVu offer the same functionality that DownVu offered? Is it better? https://support.garmin.com/faqSearch...Oy7goExxyP6QA9

    I'm a current customer. Why did my DownVu change to ClearVu? https://support.garmin.com/faqSearch...JL6eGGsjGZjl79

    I currently have a GT transducer. Did the update to ClearVu disable the center element? https://support.garmin.com/faqSearch...YRA6oQFy5ug9aA

    What fishfinder/combination units offer ClearVu technology? https://support.garmin.com/faqSearch...xM68ICSmzdwad6

    What fishfinder/combination units are sold with CV transducers? https://support.garmin.com/faqSearch...lM2a65mXgLxdp6

    Is the DownVu/ClearVu change related to the ongoing patent litigation with Navico? https://support.garmin.com/faqSearch...Zy5YYn8mkWzrp5
    Last edited by Todd Driscoll; 03-29-2017 at 09:43 PM. Reason: Added two additional FAQs
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    Todd I have a question. If you where a shollow water bass fisherman. 30'of water and less and owned a 93sv chirp. What transducer would you pick as the best for structure and fish.

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    Thank you Todd
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    This is a step in the right direction.

    Would Garmin please state that my 93sv, updated with firmware a month ago, will use the DownVu crystal?

    EDIT: https://support.garmin.com/faqSearch...YRA6oQFy5ug9aA answers this question.

    THANK YOU GARMIN!
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    so let me get this straight. I bought two units, the 7cv and 7sv, both with cv transducers. both have the angled crystals which cover a wider area including under the boat but are better suited for depths to 250 feet. this technology is so good that should I need to replace one of my cv transducers, the only option I have is to buy the older technology gt transducers as garmin does not sell the cv transducers separately.....

    this.....makes no sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by louievito View Post
    should I need to replace one of my cv transducers, the only option I have is to buy the older technology gt transducers as garmin does not sell the cv transducers separately.....

    this.....makes no sense
    It might if you already knew that the GT transducer gave better detail than the CV... and figured that a knowledgeable buyer would not purposely choose the CV over the GT. There is a lot of history on this kind of thing. After Lowrance came out with DownScan, Humminbirds first answer was to make the down image via software, like the CV. Later they paid Lowrance for the license to produce the down image through a separate down element. So ask yourself, Why would that spend that money?
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    If the CV transducer was better, they would offer it as a standalone purchase. Point blank, plain and simple. A wider angle means nothing, that's what side viewing is for. I want to see that culvert under the boat. :)

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    Here's another thing I would like to know. Do the sonar lobes actually overlap? It sure looks like it in the FAQ posted, but I've seen it portrayed elsewhere with a dead spot in-between. It probably depends on the depth which is why it says it lacks in depth performance. So at what depth does the gap appear?

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    What proof do we have that the GT is better than the CV. I have not seen any comparisons yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by LWINCHESTER2 View Post
    It might if you already knew that the GT transducer gave better detail than the CV... and figured that a knowledgeable buyer would not purposely choose the CV over the GT. There is a lot of history on this kind of thing. After Lowrance came out with DownScan, Humminbirds first answer was to make the down image via software, like the CV. Later they paid Lowrance for the license to produce the down image through a separate down element. So ask yourself, Why would that spend that money?

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    I have no idea if the gap is there or not or how big it is. I havent tested it.

    But should we believe the company (hint - it was Garmin) that tells its customers "no company tells the truth about their products." and "well we never said it was in there in the first place." and who also told every one who asked for the last several months, "There is no difference between the GT and CV transducers. It was just a name change"?

    Some how I have my doubts.

    I am 100% sure the claim that going backwards, to old, outdated, inferior technology - that every other mfg abandoned years ago - is somehow "better" is 100% BS.
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    Smoke and mirrors.

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    every other manufacturer did not abandon using side imaging for a down picture YEARS ago. humminbird used it until november of 2016 with the introduction of the helix g2n

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    Thank you for the information

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    Todd - thanks for the info.
    Dtro - I, too, want to know why I did not see the culvert.
    MonteSS - Yes, cv/dt side/by/side 'down' pics would be beyond helpful.

    Have not pulled the trigger yet - mighta got a mega, were panoptix not in the equation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroyBoy30 View Post
    every other manufacturer did not abandon using side imaging for a down picture YEARS ago. humminbird used it until november of 2016 with the introduction of the helix g2n
    Ah, sorry. One manufacturer only abandoned it last year.

    But - wait for it - they still abandoned it because it was old, outdated, inferior technology.
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    I also want to know the answer to Bassin79's Question.

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    I'm sure Todd will give you an answer. My 2 cents on better for structure and fish. GT50 better for structure. GT52 better for fish. Haha!! You wanted one transducer better for both. For the depths you are talking about best all around could be GT52 and its cheaper than the GT50.
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    That's great to hear. That's what they are suppose to be sending me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry3215 View Post
    Ah, sorry. One manufacturer only abandoned it last year.

    But - wait for it - they still abandoned it because it was old, outdated, inferior technology.
    No one but humminbird has ever used it so it would be tough for the others to abandon it

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