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    Found my next Yak!

    The 12 foot version of what I already have, but with pedals! Forward and reverse! http://www.austinkayak.com/products/...dal-Kayak.html

    I'll keep the Pro 100 for guests and family.


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    Looks neat. I think I looked at the ten foot version once. Sure are pricey though.

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    Actually, compared to other pedal drives they seem reasonable, to me. The 10 ft native propel is $2500. Also, I don't think this one is offered in a 10. It only lists the 12 on the Perception site. I might consider the 10 if they made one. I went to Scheel's last night and they have a pilot on order but its not the color I want.
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    Have you looked at the Outback?

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    Outback price is similar to Native mentioned, so more expensive. But I have Hobies and prefer the Mirage drive (flippers) over the propeller drives. Each drive has advantages and personal preferences will decide which one best suits your fishing styles. I started with an Outback and it's even better now since it got the new seat. Now I have a couple Pro Angler 14's , but have thought about trading the older one in on a new Outback and having a smaller kayak available for times I don't want the PA-14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basscatlildave View Post
    Have you looked at the Outback?
    Yes I have looked at Hobies extensively. It seems like they are all too heavy to put on my roof rack. The new Perception is 85 lbs, so I might be able to lift it up there.


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    My Feelfree is under 85lbs and there is no way I would want to lift that sucker onto a roof rack. Good luck.
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    I'll prolly just use my 10.5 footer for now, to save money,(we'll see when spring fever hits harhar) but when I'm ready it's gonna be the Pilot. There is a youtube video of a guy lifting a 100 lb Nucanoe on to his roof rack, and he uses a similar technique as I use to put mine on my Tahoe. I'm pretty sure the Pilot would go right up there. I'll strap a 25lb weight on mine and try it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwolff View Post
    My Feelfree is under 85lbs and there is no way I would want to lift that sucker onto a roof rack. Good luck.
    How do you transport it? Those Feel Frees are nice.


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    The Outback is 81 lbs with the drive out.
    Quote Originally Posted by Royjulius View Post
    Yes I have looked at Hobies extensively. It seems like they are all too heavy to put on my roof rack. The new Perception is 85 lbs, so I might be able to lift it up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basscatlildave View Post
    The Outback is 81 lbs with the drive out.
    I haven't ruled out the Outback, but its hard to think about spending 5 or 6 hundred more when I can get the Perception for $1800.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Royjulius View Post
    How do you transport it? Those Feel Frees are nice.
    I have full size pickup and just slide it into the bed. I love the layout of my feelfree but the 10' does not accept a rudder and so it does drift hard left or right when you quit paddling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwolff View Post
    I have full size pickup and just slide it into the bed. I love the layout of my feelfree but the 10' does not accept a rudder and so it does drift hard left or right when you quit paddling.
    According to the Feel Free website, that yak only weighs 69lbs. That brings up another point....Do yak manufacturers blur the truth a bit when advertising their hull weights?


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    I suspect they weigh the hull only. No seat, no rudder, no rod holders, no gear.

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    I don't believe they shave hull weights. The hull weight is just that, the weight of a bare hull. Anything added, like a seat, drive system or rudder system is not included in that weight quote and can add 20# or more to the actual "ready to fish" kayak. In the Outback example the hull weights 81#, with the seat and Mirage drive installed ready to go in the water it is closer to 100#. Anything you keep in the storage compartments or a battery adds to that. Good things kayak size limits the tackle you carry otherwise their maximum weight capacity would easily be exceeded.

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    I know Hobie shows rigged weight and hull weight. I'm pretty sure my Jackson Cuda was the same way..
    Quote Originally Posted by Royjulius View Post
    According to the Feel Free website, that yak only weighs 69lbs. That brings up another point....Do yak manufacturers blur the truth a bit when advertising their hull weights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richg99 View Post
    I suspect they weigh the hull only. No seat, no rudder, no rod holders, no gear.
    Hull weight is what matters to me as I don't have the seat or holders installed while transporting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bilgerat View Post
    Hull weight is what matters to me as I don't have the seat or holders installed while transporting.
    Same here. And all I'm really doing is looking at newer, bigger stuff. I like how easy my yak throws up on to the roof and goes. So easy. Easy makes me fish more, and when I fish more I catch more.

    Having said that, I still want to go look at that Pilot when it arrives at Scheel's on Feb 1st.......


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