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    Some dealers won't charge anything. It only takes about 15 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by castforcash View Post
    Some dealers won't charge anything. It only takes about 15 minutes.
    I would not make that expectation, however.

    Dealers have invested a significant amount of money in that system... and will normally charge to do this, especially where they are not performing the actual repairs to the engine.

    .7 hrs is the normal flat-rate for basic Computer Diagnostic System procedures.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EuropeanAM View Post
    I would not make that expectation, however.

    Dealers have invested a significant amount of money in that system... and will normally charge to do this, especially where they are not performing the actual repairs to the engine.

    .7 hrs is the normal flat-rate for basic Computer Diagnostic System procedures.
    Thank you for posting this and one reason you get all my Mercury business. I would be more than willing pay .7 hour rate. My local Mercury dealer has a 2.5 hour minimum labor charge. That makes an Oil Prime sequence bill well north of $300.
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    This leaking oil pump situation is has got me. Mercury won't admit that there is a problem with this part, has everyone contacted mercury service (920)929-5040. If your oil pump is leaking or have had one leaking no matter the year of your motor needs to flood them with phone calls. I had mine replaced to a tune of $675 plus. I got the old pump and took it apart and found a o-ring which was allowing oil to leak. A $.050 cent o-ring cause me to spend many bucks. Mercury has got to recognize that they are ripping us their customers off by not admitting that an inferior o-ring or under sized o-ring is the cause of the oil leaks. If you pump is not pumping that is another issue. I have just purchased a pak of 25 viton o-rings for $13.60 plus shipping that will be less than $1.00 each.. to fix a $675.70 replacement pump. Someone else here replaced the o-ring for a fix of the oil leak. That Viton material o-ring will stand up to the oil and take up to 400 deg f so it will do the job. I'll buy me a top of the line rod and reel with the money saved.

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    Do you have the specs on the o-ring?

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    I'll let you know after I receive them and have one in place.
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    Got the O-Rings and have installed 1 in the pump and re-assembled. It fit perfect the cross section of the replacement is slightly larger an I'm sure it will seal and stop the oil leak. The O-Ring is a BrownChemical-ResistantViton®FluoroelastomerThese O-rings offer excellent resistance to boric acid, citric acid, isopropyl alcohol,fuels, and transmission fluids. Temperature range is -10°to 400° F. Durometer is A75 (medium). with a cross-section of .103 x 1.487 ID x 1.693 OD. McMaster Carr # 5267T95 $13.60 for 25.. They have a shelf life of 20 years.

    Now remember this is a leak repair only and this is for information only, if your pump is bad the O-Ring will not fix your pump. Apply blue lock-tite to the 3 SHCS holding the metal cover over the electrical coil that retains the actuator plunger plate against the O-Ring seal.
    I'm not responsible for any-other problems like blown engines due to oil pump failures. You are on your own if you try this O-Ring fix and it does not work..
    Use your dealer for purging the oil pump before running the engine
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    Quote Originally Posted by hekistner View Post
    Got the O-Rings and have installed 1 in the pump and re-assembled. It fit perfect the cross section of the replacement is slightly larger an I'm sure it will seal and stop the oil leak. The O-Ring is a BrownChemical-ResistantViton®FluoroelastomerThese O-rings offer excellent resistance to boric acid, citric acid, isopropyl alcohol,fuels, and transmission fluids. Temperature range is -10°to 400° F. Durometer is A75 (medium). with a cross-section of .103 x 1.487 ID x 1.693 OD. McMaster Carr # 5267T95 $13.60 for 25.. They have a shelf life of 20 years.

    Now remember this is a leak repair only and this is for information only, if your pump is bad the O-Ring will not fix your pump. Apply blue lock-tite to the 3 SHCS holding the metal cover over the electrical coil that retains the actuator plunger plate against the O-Ring seal.
    I'm not responsible for any-other problems like blown engines due to oil pump failures. You are on your own if you try this O-Ring fix and it does not work..
    Use your dealer for purging the oil pump before running the engine
    What was the thickness and I.D. of the Original O-ring ? I buy a lot of Viton O-rings for hydraulic systems that operate at high temperatures.



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    What was the thickness and I.D. of the Original O-ring ? I buy a lot of Viton O-rings for hydraulic systems that operate at high temperatures.
    The best I could measure it was .095" cross-section thickness and the ID of 1.487. It is hard to measure O-Rings ID/OD with a digital caliper without distorting it. The new O-Ring was visual slightly thicker than the old ring so it should seal the leak, for how long time will only tell. Mercury needs to change the type of seal used in these oil pumps. It's beyond belief their fix is to sell you a new oil pump for $472.00 and change for a $1.00 O-Ring which would fix the leak on a working oil pump.

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    ok so I got my oil pump from don ( thank you don and Rhonda ) for your fast mail out. and I have installed it nothing to it so now I have to take my boat to a outboard shop to get them to prime my pump and oil tank is that right. just want to make sure before I take a day off work to drop my boat off
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    Is this a 3L only issue? Is it affecting my type, an '04 200 EFI?

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    Is this a 3L only issue? Is it affecting my type, an '04 200 EFI?
    Not about your EFI.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeKz View Post
    Is this a 3L only issue? Is it affecting my type, an '04 200 EFI?
    You will need to open a separate thread, and provide your engine serial number for assistance with that question. Your engine may have a similar pump.

    Quote Originally Posted by lightfoot
    ok so I got my oil pump from don ( thank you don and Rhonda ) for your fast mail out. and I have installed it nothing to it so now I have to take my boat to a outboard shop to get them to prime my pump and oil tank is that right. just want to make sure before I take a day off work to drop my boat off
    Yes, an oil pump prime sequence must be performed before the engine is started.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EuropeanAM View Post
    You will need to open a separate thread, and provide your engine serial number for assistance with that question. Your engine may have a similar pump.



    Yes, an oil pump prime sequence must be performed before the engine is started.
    installed my new oil pump Monday took it to outboard shop tues got it back today and all is good thanks again to MR Don Weed and Rhonda Weed for your parts and it only coat me 75.00 for the shop to prime it ready for the water this weekend
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    Checked mine again last night while putting some oil in my compressor inlet....knock on wood the pump is still dry
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    Checked mine again last night while putting some oil in my compressor inlet....knock on wood the pump is still dry
    Why are you putting oil in the compressor inlet?? Haven't heard that before.....
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    Why are you putting oil in the compressor inlet?? Haven't heard that before.....
    To add some lubrication to the cylinder wall.



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    To add some lubrication to the cylinder wall.
    =1. Don advises to do this anytime the engine will sit for 45 or more days. It's in the annual maintenance thread in FAQ.
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    At 154 hours, my oil pump was leaking. It is hard to trust Mercury Marine when they know they have a issue and will not fix it.
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    Just because a number of folks on here and their buddies have had issues doesn't mean "Mercury knows they have a problem." I'd guestimate there have been about 500,000 Mercury DFI motors sold since 1998. If there are 1500 (way more than listed here) oil pump failures that is still just a .2% failure rate. Of course if you are one of those, then you might believe there is a bigger problem when there is not.

    I have put a lot of hours on Merc DFI motors since 1999 without an oil pump failure. I am either very lucky or more representative of a common Mercury user. I think it is the latter...

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