Are there any other level headed guys out there that realize these just are gimmics and serve no purpose. The only reason i have one is that it came standard on the boat. The only way you can be comfortable is to be able to put your full weight on it and you can't do that on a movable surface! I know that 99% of the guys out there disagree, but i am a logical 1%er. To me they just create another little space that collects dirt and grime!!