ive noticed alot of people going towards magnum deer rifles and super long shots.well heres my truth! 600 yds is not hunting its shooting, it requires the skill and stealth of a hippo to get into that range of a deer. next even though i rarely use a 300win mag on deer, it is severe overkill, ive never seen a deer that was big enuff to use anything more than a 270 win(not wsm either) people need to start relyng on skill instead of firepower! their are people who kill deer than there are people who dont so they buy a bigger gun! most deer that escape wounded are because of the hunter not the gun. learn to shoot accurately. than if u wound one i guess buy a mortar!