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    What high-end, sensitive spinning rods

    do NOT use micro guides?? With braid to flour leader (double uni knot) I really do not like micro guides. I’ll probably learn the FG knot to see if that helps, but in general I’m just not a big fan of micros.

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    I am in the same position. My Dobyns Extreme HP does not have a problem with Alberto knot, but my Alpha Angler does. I tie the FG at home and if I need to re-tie on the water I use the Alberto knot. Take some time to learn the FG. It is really the way to go.

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    G. Loomis NRX +

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    I fish the steez ags spinning rods all use braid to flouro leaders. i mostly fish them in saltwater. i use a fg or alberto knot haven't had an issue

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    Custom built NFC xray. Easily on par with NRX and legend extreme, at a far lower cost.

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    If custom go Point Blank 7'3" ML Torzite Guides 5.5's or the 701 ML

    amazing blanks

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    Dobyns Xtasy - Torzite guides.
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    Yup, Xtacy has regular guides.
    2004TR-21X/2015 250 ProXS
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    St Croix Legend Elite

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    We (ALX Rods) don't use micros specifically because of passing leader knots - spinning or casting. (Ironically I was one of the first 4 custom rodbuilders in the US to use micros over 15 years ago). We also take it a step further and upsize our rod tips .5mm because in testing we found that the tip was one of the most common places the leader knot hangs.

    Wrote a short article if you feel like reading.

    https://alxrods.com/blogs/news/leaderknots

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    Have two ALX Enox casting rods and use the Alberto knot with no issues. I do only wrap 5 times down then 5 up. Majority of people / internet say 7 or 10 wraps in each direction

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    Very good article! Thank you. I do in fact tie long leaders…typically 15-20’.

    Quote Originally Posted by cidgrad View Post
    We (ALX Rods) don't use micros specifically because of passing leader knots - spinning or casting. (Ironically I was one of the first 4 custom rodbuilders in the US to use micros over 15 years ago). We also take it a step further and upsize our rod tips .5mm because in testing we found that the tip was one of the most common places the leader knot hangs.

    Wrote a short article if you feel like reading.

    https://alxrods.com/blogs/news/leaderknots

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFSims View Post
    St Croix Legend Elite

    That makes sense. I have an old Legend Elite that I’ve never had a problem with using the uni to uni knot. I got a Megabass Windbuster (which feels amazing!!) but in the first two outings I’ve ended up with major “wind knot” in the braid half way up the rod on a cast. The LE is only 6’-3” that I use for skipping socks and short target casting (although it will launch a bait pretty far for its length) and I want something longer for open water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Real L View Post
    G. Loomis NRX +
    NRX+ Inshore use oversized titanium SiC guides.

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    Sawgrass rods bois-d-arc-bass-rods..super sensitive,super light nfc blanks and ceracoil guide train
    07 tracker TX 190
    75 horse Mercury
    999 KVD, 859 , and 798 SI HD

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    Quote Originally Posted by NRXfever View Post
    Sawgrass rods bois-d-arc-bass-rods..super sensitive,super light nfc blanks and ceracoil guide train
    Hmmmm...I just checked out the Bois D'Arc 7'7" XH A-Rig rod and it's and XFast taper and has a rating of 1/2-1oz, strange?!?

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    Dobyns xtasy are a hell of a rod! Great warranty and customer service too. Heard good things about ALX as well.

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    Never had an issue on my NRX. Moving to a NRX+ this year (not by choice) so I hope it remains a non-issue.

    Always had issues on my St. Croix Legend Tournament. Love the rod, but hate the guides. Got fed up enough that I just took it in to a custom builder to get the micro eyes removed and larger eyes installed. Can't wait to get that rod back with larger eyes.

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    I'd try a different knot before making the investment move to new rods. At least get that part out of the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknobber bot View Post
    Custom built NFC xray. Easily on par with NRX and legend extreme, at a far lower cost.
    Agreed. With some of the sales you can build some stupid nice rods cheap.

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