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    2023 Hurricane Season

    Not good…..

    https://news.yahoo.com/hurricane-season-is-about-to-peak-and-its-likely-to-be-bad-184613873.html


    “June was the hottest June on record, and July was the hottest month on record, period. Multiple days in July set new record average global temperatures. That heat is being captured in the oceans. Last Wednesday, a buoy in Manatee Bay just off the coast southwestern Florida registered an ocean temperature of 101.1 degrees Fahrenheit — the hottest ocean temperature in recorded history.

    Since warm ocean waters and thunderstorms power hurricanes, these conditions increase the likelihood and severity of hurricanes.

    While the average year sees 14 named storms, AccuWeather recently upped its forecast from 11 to 15 named storms to 13 to 17 this year, including four to eight hurricanes, due to high sea-surface temperatures”

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    Well NASA and the European Space Center gave an explanation for the high temps....but the press will not report this because it plays with the agenda that it is all climate change driven. In January of 2022, the undersea Volcano Tonga erupted. Land volcanoes spew tons of ash into the upper atmosphere, which blocks out the sun's warmth. this occurred in the early 1800's with the eruption of Krakatoa. so much ash was ejected, it causes low temps around the earth for years, creating crop failures of enormous proportions. The little Ice Age. Many in Europe starved. well, undersea volcanoes send up super heated water, or water vapor, into the upper atmosphere. So much water vapor was sent up by Tonga, that it is helping to keep any heat.... heating the earth, inside the atmosphere instead of allowing it to reflect back into space. NASA says it could take another year or two for all this water vapor to disperse in the upper atmosphere.
    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/ton...o-stratosphere

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    One thing for sure, we are gonna find out how much we understand about hurricanes and climate. If this isn't the worst hurricane season ever with monster storms, then I'm gonna say that there's alot to learn about hurricane science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakebouef5 View Post
    Well NASA and the European Space Center gave an explanation for the high temps....but the press will not report this because it plays with the agenda that it is all climate change driven. In January of 2022, the undersea Volcano Tonga erupted. Land volcanoes spew tons of ash into the upper atmosphere, which blocks out the sun's warmth. this occurred in the early 1800's with the eruption of Krakatoa. so much ash was ejected, it causes low temps around the earth for years, creating crop failures of enormous proportions. The little Ice Age. Many in Europe starved. well, undersea volcanoes send up super heated water, or water vapor, into the upper atmosphere. So much water vapor was sent up by Tonga, that it is helping to keep any heat.... heating the earth, inside the atmosphere instead of allowing it to reflect back into space. NASA says it could take another year or two for all this water vapor to disperse in the upper atmosphere.
    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/ton...o-stratosphere

    It literally verifies climate change. It's another example of proof that if you change the makeup of our atmosphere that you can change the climate. It's proof that if you increase greenhouse gas in the atmosphere you will warm the climate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boneil View Post
    One thing for sure, we are gonna find out how much we understand about hurricanes and climate. If this isn't the worst hurricane season ever with monster storms, then I'm gonna say that there's alot to learn about hurricane science.
    Just remember that hurricanes include typhoons so you have to look at the entire planet and not just our little patch of sand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boneil View Post
    It's proof that if you increase greenhouse gas in the atmosphere you will warm the climate.
    Tell China that... no standards over there

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    The story itself differs from the alarmist headline. The headline says "likely", but one of the quotes from the story:

    We just don't know. This is why it's a particularly difficult forecast.”

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    A 10-day forecast is correct about 50% of the time. How accurate is this?

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    They don't have a clue. Earlier in the year they were all doom and gloom about we were going to have a very early hurricane season and it was going to be terrible. Here we are halfway through the season and we haven't even had one. El Nino has a suppressive effect on the Atlantic hurricane formation. As long as it stays pretty strong, the Atlantic will have very few storms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boneil View Post
    It literally verifies climate change. It's another example of proof that if you change the makeup of our atmosphere that you can change the climate. It's proof that if you increase greenhouse gas in the atmosphere you will warm the climate.
    Climate change itself isn’t typically in dispute, whether its anthropogenic is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly View Post
    A 10-day forecast is correct about 50% of the time. How accurate is this?
    50%

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    Quote Originally Posted by gr8shot View Post
    They don't have a clue. Earlier in the year they were all doom and gloom about we were going to have a very early hurricane season and it was going to be terrible. Here we are halfway through the season and we haven't even had one. El Nino has a suppressive effect on the Atlantic hurricane formation. As long as it stays pretty strong, the Atlantic will have very few storms.
    Yup

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    Just the earth cycles. Look back over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boneil View Post
    It literally verifies climate change. It's another example of proof that if you change the makeup of our atmosphere that you can change the climate. It's proof that if you increase greenhouse gas in the atmosphere you will warm the climate.
    Virtually no one disputes the fact that climate changes. Always had, always will.

    Question is, does mankind contribute to it?

    Undoubtedly, but it’s a small contribution. Yet some think that closing pizza ovens in NYC or forcing people to eat bugs will make a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frogchunker View Post
    Yup
    Meanwhile in South Korea after thousands of Boy Scouts suffered heat illness at the World Jamboree, the event is closing early due to an approaching typhoon. The Earth is more than the U.S. coastline. Several days ago there was a Cat. 4 hurricane off the western coast of Mexico.

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    I live and work on The Gulf of Mexico.Right now sea temperatures there are running in the high eighties to very low nineties, completely normal range for this time of year.Inland bay temps(posted by I.P. Freely) are a bit irrelevant as they are shallow coastal waters that cannot induce or sustain a Hurricane.We are apparently in an Il Nino year where weather patterns tend to somewhat subdue Atlantic Hurricane seasons.I would not at all think this season will be much.We are already into August and only on D for names with no Hurricanes as of yet.We will see though, right about now is when systems usually begin to march off the coast of Africa west ward one after the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c rig View Post
    Virtually no one disputes the fact that climate changes. Always had, always will.

    Question is, does mankind contribute to it?

    Undoubtedly, but it’s a small contribution. Yet some think that closing pizza ovens in NYC or forcing people to eat bugs will make a difference.
    There's a few left who still believe the climate doesn't change, usually the same people who believe the Earth is only 10K years old.

    There are many who believe man's activities have zero affect on climate. That we have no affect on the atmoshpere. If we believe volcanoes can cause warming, then certainly humans can, since we emit much more than a volcanoes. And even if volcanoes caused more warming than humans, why would we want to compound the affect and add more to it?

    And I agree, closing pizza ovens is stupid. The bug thing might actually have an affect, but I don't think it's worth it.
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    I’m sure there is climate change but how much is man made I don’t know. Hurricanes have always been hard to predict the number and severity. Some years there are more then we’re predicted some years less just seems like Florida has taken a pounding the last few years.
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    Even if we are contributing to it there is really only one solution that nobody wants to talk about.

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    The sun, earths angle to it and solar storms predict temperature. Climate change as reported by media is all B.S. Nothing more than to drive more control into our lives. Its a money, power grab.

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