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    Thumbs Up Post about product development, the company and the sport evolving.

    This started about deck plates, side accesses, wiring harnesses and developments, as technology changes abound today.

    Going back 20 years ago, we started large in dash graphs in 2003 with the Cougar FTD model, as graphs went GPS with Lcx 15 and then the Lcx 15c (c=color screen). We outpaced Lowrance GPS production that year. That was followed by the Humminbird 997 Si and after that electronics upgrades became a flurry. Down Imaging came along and that eased into the market. It took a decade to bring boats up to where graphs were in the 2005 era, simply due to molds and tooling costs. Let alone a financial recession that further slowed things in 2008-2010. Since then it’s been a revolution of technology as the economy rebounded and fishing changed as well.

    Even the homes we live in have drastically changed and your three bedroom home may have been top level in 2010. Todays homes have eclipsed that level of opulence and created mega monstrosities that seem to be popping up everywhere. Which also creates an entirely different conversation of wants and needs, or haves and have nots.

    Let’s look back some and going back to 2003. After GPS in that era became popular then charts and more mapping came along. Graphs, MinnKota Ultrex and Spot Lock Trolling Motors (2019) have totally change the aftermarket install landscape as everyone wants the newest and latest technology.

    With the advent of Live Scope in 2020 model year, following PanOptix, the electronics game has totally changed in 4 or 5 short years. The race to the front had been feverish development of graphs, systems, mounts, motorized turrets and much more we haven’t seen yet.

    As this all develops, in 2000 era we had no need for larger access, improved harnesses and often we see comments that ask why didn’t we do this or that. People forget in the mid 1990’s cell phones were new technology and bag phones were the method. They don’t realize that Windows 95 (1995) was a revolutionary computer system (as with Apple) and the internet was not common until the mid 1990’s. iPhones were new in 2007 and after that the game ramped up in all technology aspects.

    On our present Premium line we have stepped up big time in many areas. And we are continuing to review how we advance access, mounting and system usage beyond where we see it today. Many areas will have no need for access after the boat is new. And we don’t want to add future problems from poorly located panels, plates, and hinging areas, that may never be used by a consumer.

    On Premium models today we have access plates in the bow and the control box comes free on a plate. Then the 6 gauge tinned and soldered harness is fine stranded wire, with the front and console terminal blocks it gives you “clean” power to both console and bow with no amperage drop. A Bronze buss bar and stud mounted terminals give you much better connection than any twist style, press in, or other connector. It’s hard mounted and has good contact.

    As trolling motors advance, moving that further we moved trolling wire up to a 4 gauge soldered system and we continue to use the Battery Tender removable trolling motor plug, while others hard mount their trolling motor with crimp connectors. This is an area we would like to improve in the future, as those needs develop. For now this is the best system and the cost is considerable for both male and female parts. We don’t believe another manufacturer has yet stepped up to 4 gauge fine stranded tinned wire, let alone soldering those connections.

    All of this post developed from a few comments on a 2014 model we saw, and as we exit 2023 model year soon, that’s over a ten year old boat now. Comparing the new 2023 Puma STS to a 2003 Cougar would be unfair, as it would be to a 1983 Ranger (R) 350.

    It’s hard for people to remember Yamaha SHO came about in 2010-11 and Mercury V8 models are only 5 years old. Developments will come and the pace is almost Tesla exhausting, when you think about the speed things have changed our world lately. Just like the new Jaguar STS (2020)and Puma STS (2022) hulls, we will continue to develop that template and bring things to a new level that others haven’t.

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    Please put development of trailer parts alternate sources of supply on the to do list.
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    always moving forward is the only way to succeed!!
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    It is amazing how rapidly things are changing in the industry and noteworthy that Bass Cat has led many of those new bass boat developments over the years. The Bass Cat company is also very involved on Bass Boat sites like Bass Cat owners site and Bass Boat Central offering solutions for questions and challenges that many bass boat owners face regardless of brand.

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    Bass Cat and Allison have certainly led the way in the bass boat market IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krindgen View Post
    Please put development of trailer parts alternate sources of supply on the to do list.
    this doesn’t make sense. As bass cat is always looking for the best parts for the trailers to put under the boat. It’s the best built trailer in the industry

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    We assume they are discussing Dexter products. Which we are navigating a vendor switch at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BASStex1988 View Post
    this doesn’t make sense. As bass cat is always looking for the best parts for the trailers to put under the boat. It’s the best built trailer in the industry

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    I suspect some hull tweaks are coming with the switch to lithium batteries. I changed over and lost about 150 pounds in the stern. I now keep my tanks full otherwise the bow does not want to lift as well. Props will also change to deal with this I suspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BASStex1988 View Post
    this doesn’t make sense. As bass cat is always looking for the best parts for the trailers to put under the boat. It’s the best built trailer in the industry
    It makes sense that Dexter is the only source of supply for a number of trailer parts that are consistently failing. Can't use the best parts if they don't exist.
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    I was thinking about this the other day as I was looking at a clean one owner 2012 with the factory installed graphs and TM. HDS 10 in console and hds 8 up front (gen 1s). Motorguide tour pro TM. back when that boat was new that was in fact a loaded out and hard optioned boat. that boat today lacks close to $15k in options to compete with todays "standard" loaded rigs. Today that same trolling motor is worth $300 used and the graphs are nearly useless/antique. It is mind blowing to see. in 2013 I fished a college championship on a lake in GA full of spotted bass. I remember purchasing a 7" graph with down imaging and it was a BIG deal. other competitors new boats had side imaging, which just 10 years ago seemed like something insane I could never obtain. Side imaging is now standard on about fishing boat you see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krindgen View Post
    It makes sense that Dexter is the only source of supply for a number of trailer parts that are consistently failing. Can't use the best parts if they don't exist.
    bass cat does not use vault hubs since 2019. That product does have a problem. Other companies have continued to use them with continued failures. Saw another this weekend. Bass cat saw a problem and went back to a buddy bearing hub and as long as people don’t pump grease in them every day they will last a long long time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bass Cat Boats View Post
    We assume they are discussing Dexter products. Which we are navigating a vendor switch at this time.

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    By at least 8 years going by the trailer we got stuck with despite concerns... but took to a trailer shop locally that took steps to correct a manufacturing defect and have now had NO ISSUE since their fix on the 2015 trailer now almost 5 years ago.