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    Advise...On the water adjustments

    Was fishing a derb out of Parry Sound Ontario and went for greens instead of browns which was a gamble but it payed off. Took 1st with just over 18lbs. Found some good ones in a small bay and stayed there all day. Mix of pencil reeds, pads and cabbage. Gin clear water 2ft-6ft sand bottom. Temp was 73 in the morning and 76 in the afternoon. Little overcast but mainly sunny. Little wind but hardly a ripple. Area was loaded with bluegill. We pulled up just in time for the breakfast buffet to kick in and had our limit in the first hour. Myself throwing a field mouse and my co with a white belly frog.

    After the initial feeding window the bite slowed right down which I was expecting so I switched over to some more subtle presentations to play cleanup, jig/senko/ned but not even a sniff for 2+ hours. Picked up the white frog again and every 3-4 casts would result in a blowup but short strike. Ok so consistent short strikes are telling me I need to make an adjustment. We've already confirmed they want it on top so maybe a colour change or cadance change. My co and I worked really well together, he kept a white frog on while I rotated through black, brown, yellow, green, blue, as well as different size profiles. Never got hit, not once while the white kept getting shorted.

    Alright, so we've confirmed white on top. Let's break down the cadence. Same frog, same casts about 10ft appart. I worked mine aggressively with shorted pauses while my co worked slow with longer pauses. They wouldn't touch it moving slow, had to be moving some water. Ok, another piece of the puzzle. I switched up to a popping frog while co kept the walking. Nope, they don't want it just popping, had to have that side to side action to it.

    Ok so confirmed white walking on top, maybe a angle change. Went in as shallow as we could get casting out deep past the cover and bringing it in. Same results, short strike. Went clockwise and counter still the same. I'm good with boat control and staying quiet but thought maybe we're just making too much of a disturbance so lets pull off, eat lunch and give them 30 mins or so. Pulled back in with TM on 1 and pinned down. Same result, short strike.

    I think by this point most guys would have moved on or just came back later but I wasn't going to give up. These aren't just dinks slapping at it, there are quality fish still hitting. The short strike weren't just little pops, some of them you could get a good look at. They were active enough to hit topwater and there was the potential for a 25 pound plus bag in here. I knew we were close to 20lbs arealy and were definitely in the money but there was no way I was walking away from a PB limit. Weightless texas rigged floating white 5' senko. Meets all the criteria, this should be it...Nope...Crazy.

    Long post but I've never before run into bass that were so super specific on what they wanted. Every time a topwater bite has died off a jig or a senko does a good job at cleaning up. Maybe others have run into a similar scenario? please share. hoping to learn something new.

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    That had to be super frustrating. Would there have been a way to add a stinger hook to your frog? I know sometimes when I am in cover and don't want my stinger hook dangling, I will put it inside a small piece of clear tubing to hold it straight out.

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    I would've given up long before you did

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    Switch from a normal style frog to a Zoom horny toad. Works for me when they aren't hitting a buzz bait or regular frog, it is a less aggressive approach that you can still cover a lot of water with or fish it slow if that is what they want.

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    I always carry these Lake Fork frog trailer hooks and they have helped me countless times when the fish are whiffing on a frog. I firmly believe that those are anger bites and NOT feeding bites and those fish are usually hitting BEHIND the frog. I normally remove the "legs" of the frog completely to avoid the fish targeting them and then put the Lake Fork hook on. I still have fish miss it after hanging the trailer hook on, but I definitely hook more than without it. It has a rigid rubber sleeve that keeps it upright and relatively weedless. These things have saved me SO many times that they are ALWAYS in my boat.

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    I don’t think I would’ve had that much patience with a frog. Maybe would tried a weightless super fluke fished fairly fast
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    White swimming fluke on a weighted hook on top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BassnPhoenix920 View Post
    White swimming fluke on a weighted hook on top.
    This is exactly what I was thinking the whole time I was reading his post.




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    i would have tossed out a white buzz bait as well with a trailer hook

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    Reel super fast, stop suddenly. Or reel fast with no pause.

    I was on this once when they only hit when I reeled straight in, super fast. The fish told me, when one blasted an errant cast, and I was reeling it in for all it was worth. They had no trouble finding it. It’s happened on other occasions also, a 6.5 nearly made me pee my pants close to the boat! For the life of me, I don’t know how they do it, guess it’s catch it or starve.

    Im trying to avoid that, so I ordered some from a company that pours some in something I’ve never seen, and also a different color which is my favorite in soft plastics. I asked him to make me some frogs which are clear, with different colors of flake in them. Hey, you never know, I fish a lot of clear water.
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    im curious what derb you were fishing out of P sound? Ive been waiting for one to roll through, thats my home water and unfortunately the huron bass series is in P sound while im away on vacation.
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    Would have probably went to a bone colored spook for the walking action.

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    Put a rattle in the frog.

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    No back up bait ready to throw on their head after the short strike? Like a worm?

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    Wacky rig senko with a flick-it head as a follow up. Smashed them in a tournament in exactly the same situation. Let your partner bring em up then you can catch em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DennisMH&F View Post
    Wacky rig senko with a flick-it head as a follow up. Smashed them in a tournament in exactly the same situation. Let your partner bring em up then you can catch em.
    That's exactly what my co and I were trying to do. I have stinger hooks but hadn't had them in the boat for the last 2-3 years.



    Thanks for all the replies. Looks like I'm going shopping...LOL