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    I was 185-190 6’ in high school. Lifted weights for awhile and got to a healthy strong 200lbs. Quit lifting during the start of Covid and decided recently I’m buying a bunch of work equipment. I was 236 in November and im teetering at 199-201 right now. I’d like to get to 190-195. It is a lifestyle change, and it’s hard! I drink maybe 1-2 sodas per month as a treat, homemade popcorn once or twice per week. Ice cream maybe once or twice per month. I am working out 45min to 1.5 hrs 5+ days a week which is challenging in itself, time wise. Id say diet is 80% of your fitness level. It’s like putting 87 octane in a corvette, it will run but not at peak performance. The other 20% is the supercharger and nitrous (workout). I started roller blading and biking again, sounds silly but it helps make cardio fun.

    My wife is amazing with meal preparation. It helps a ton. I also use a MyFitnessPal app to track calories and macros/nutrients ect. Start small and celebrate the small victories and stick with it! Drink tons of water it will make you feel full longer too.

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    This may hit wrong and thats fine but I think a lot of people struggle with the most important part of losing weight and that is their own personal accountability. They do not own how they got there and they are not honest about it to themselves. I can say that because I struggle at times with weight and quite frankly its always my own fault that I got to where it became an issue. Everyone wants a magic drug, a hack or a shortcut. Reality is there is not one. Losing weight and keeping is a battle and its something that you don't half ass do and it works.

    I don't care what your physical condition may be there is something you can do to get a bit more active. So many make excuses about bad knees, bad back etc but there literally is something everyone can find to do that allows them to simply move and not be stationary.
    The other excuse is lack of time etc. Well if someone has time to post here or an FB then they have the time to get in some work that day. There are so many little things you can do like park further away from an entrance when you are out going to different places, lift some lighter weights while watching TV or do a certain amount of exercises every time you get up to go to the bathroom etc.

    People say it costs more to eat healthy, they don't have the time to meal prep or they can't shake hunger pains but again I say BS. Make the time. You can spend 15 minutes and get 3 days worth of food prepped and easier to grab and go. Fruit and vegetables are often way cheaper than processed foods. Same with clean proteins. Its not all that hard to do. First be honest with your input and find a BMR calculator on the internet. Be honest about the questions you answer. Start there then start shaving off a couple of hundred calories a day through better eating and exercise. Start simple, slowly cut out the bad stuff from your diet over time. Replace it with better stuff. Eat smaller portions, eat less often and drink a lot of water. Quit rewarding yourself for doing the right thing. I personally do not believe in cheat days or cheat meals. It takes roughly 3500 calories to equal a pound. You have to create a caloric deficit to lose weight. You start busting your ass to lose 500 calories a day then come the weekend you decide to have a cheat meal or day. You wolf down half a pizza and a couple of beers followed by a bowl of ice cream or a piece of cake. You literally just zapped about half or more of that deficit you worked all week to create. So what happens is that slows your progress which over times makes people feel like they are not seeing results as they should be and they quit trying. All because you thought you "earned" a cheat meal by doing the right thing. Playing the reward game with food is a dangerous game. Its gonna cause way more issues than it helps.

    Find a way to eat that is sustainable for the long term. The first time I realized I ate myself to fatness was 2011. I was well over 300lbs and felt like hell. I was drinking soft drinks by the gallon a day. I made excuses as to why I did not have time to work out or eat right. It was always someone else's fault. Finally I got fed up and I started working out like a madman and somewhat modified my eating habits. I quit soft drinks cold turj]key and have not had one since. I lost over 100lbs in 6 months. It stayed off for about a year or so then it crept right back up. What I had done to lose it was not sustainable. I also neglected to learn to eat better. I got satisfied and complacent with how far I had come. I took it for granted. I had totally gotten lazy and did it to myself. I did not continue to put in the work.

    By 2015 I needed to lose it again so this time I looked at how to eat better. I started on a Paleo based way of eating which was pretty easy to maintain. I did the same with my workouts. Nothing too extreme. Just consistency. I took all of the issues that come with being fat and used them as motivation to lose weight. The weight melted off and again I lost over 100lbs pretty quickly. It stayed off very well because I understood a lot more that food was fuel and to eat better and to stay active regardless of whether I needed to lose weight or not. I was still doing the work. Then COVID hit and I was working a ton, the gyms closed and I was getting lax. As COVID settled down I started noticing that my hands would swell after a workout. I had a lot of headaches and felt like I had no energy. I was eating right but my weight started creeping back up. I would work out even harder then get even more rigid about how I ate. The weight just kept coming up. I had went and obtained a personal trainer certification just prior to COVID so I felt like I was doing the right things based on what I had learned. Still I was gaining weight. Finally I was able to get to some specialists and labs were drawn several times. It was found that I had a pretty severe case of Hashimoto's Disease which is rare in men to begin with, its even more rare for a male to have such a late in life onset. When I went to a specialist and they scanned my thyroid I was told it was the most inflamed they had ever seen. Didn't know if that was a compliment or not.......it did however help to pinpoint why I was swelling up so bad, putting on extra weight and fighting with headaches. They started me out on some medication. Initially it worked well then kind of stalled out. I started another medication and the same results. By this time I was pissed off and kinda down on it all as I had always been able to push through anything and make my body respond. In a nutshell I gave up and kept making excuses. I began to eat whatever I wanted in whatever quantities I wanted. I ate myself to a place I did not want to be at again till I finally said enough is enough.

    I was getting dressed after a shower and caught a glimpse of my stomach. I was sickened, embarrassed but most of all I was mad. I needed to be pissed as its fuel for me. I decided then and there that I would get back to my target weight and get healthier or I would break my body in the process. I decided to quit feeling sorry for myself and making excuses. I got back to eating right. Just for the heck of it I did not eat any bread at all for 30 days. The swelling after workouts stopped, I felt better. No more headaches. My energy levels got back to normal. I also had dabbled a bit with intermittent fasting here and there but never for an extended amount of time. I started 2 months ago just eating within a 12 hour window. I eat pretty clean but I shutdown anything other than water intake at 7:00PM. If it gets that late and I have not eaten I wait until the next day. No exceptions I usually don't start eating until around 8-9:00AM so it works perfectly for me. Its been a true life changer. Its not hard at all. I feel 100% better. It also has reset my taste buds. Everything has more flavor. Something like a piece of cake or candy would be inedible to me now as the sweetness would be too much to handle. I feel more clear headed and more focused. I have lost right at 50lbs in two months and feel great again. I am more than halfway to my target weight but I am not in a race to get there. Just going with steady progress and sustainability. Small hunger pains are a reminder that you are doing something right.

    The thing that drives me is the dislike of myself being fat. I don't say I am overweight, I say I am fat. I own it. I don't allow myself excuses. I just try and be consistent. Fact is no one really cares that you are overweight, no one is gonna hold your hand and get you to your goal, no one else is gonna do the work for you. You are gonna have to work, sweat and learn to deal with being uncomfortable for extended periods of time. If you are a special flower that needs someone to build in excuses for you then my approach will not work for you. You gotta despise where you are today if you want to get there. You are the only one that can truly hold yourself accountable. You gotta get up and start moving, start eating better and go all in. Don't waste your time with an half ass attempt. It will just come back and you will gain even more. You gotta do the work no matter what. You are in a life long battle. Because you hit your target weight does not mean the fight is over. Stop making excuses and go do the work. Don't allow yourself cheat meals or cheat days. Don't skip workouts. Make time for them even if you are tired. Be consistent. Quitting will become a pattern if you let it. You are gonna have to recalibrate your want to. At least that is my approach.
    That approach will work for 99% of the population. People can vary some of the things you do or follow, but there is no big secret to it. You can't keep adding gas to the tank without burning some of it off. At the same time unless you are doing a heavy regimented exercise program like an athlete, you can't exercise your way out of bad eating. Too many calories and too much processed food is a big part of the reason our nation has some pretty serious health issues. I walked several miles and climbed hundreds, if not thousands of stairs everyday of my 42 year working life, but still could easily put on weight if I didn't eat right, and that includes calorie intake. In my case, portion control was my friend. It wasn't easy at first, I love to eat, who doesn't, but after a short while of practice, the thought that I was still hungry after eating less, went away. Your point about late night eating is a BIG one. A cutoff time is a great habit to get into.

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    Key is no sugary drinks, or alcohol, and eat whole foods...stay away from processed foods...get whatever is close/on the ground for food.
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    GLP-1 meds are the way to go if insurance covers it or if you can afford it. Use with exercise and weight melts off while still being able to enjoy food, just in normal or smaller amounts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumour2u View Post
    Weight loss drugs
    sounds like a terrible idea. maybe 20 years from now when we see long term impacts it will be a marginal idea for those that can't or won't do it the conventional way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidsa View Post
    sounds like a terrible idea. maybe 20 years from now when we see long term impacts it will be a marginal idea for those that can't or won't do it the conventional way.

    The first GLP1 meds were approved for people in 2005. And were studied and went through drug trials for many years before hand. IMO, its a terrible idea to deal with the long term impacts of being over weight and obese. We know what the long term impacts are of being over weight and obese, it greatly decreases life expectancy in many ways.
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    Drugs, . How about just eat properly and exercise? I know, to much work and not quick enough results for lazy people. You can still eat amazing, delicious meals. Proper intake and exercise is a life long endeavor, not a quick fix. People need to change their bad habits into good ones. Simple enough. So many want the short cut with no effort, that’s not how it works. Eat whole foods, build necessary muscle, doing that also builds dense bones. All things the body needs as it ages.
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    I disagree with the 100% willpower thing if you are over 60 or so. Unless you want to feel very hungry all the time. I lost over 50 lbs a couple years ago. then all at once the scale stopped going down. I log everything I eat and all activity and nothing changed in those habits. At the calories I take in I should still be loosing 1-2 lbs a week. There goes the calories in vs the calories burned theory too. I figure the body thinks I am starving and shut down some kind of way. Who knows. I'm not gaining but should be loosing for the little I eat, plus I walk 4-5 miles a day. A typical day is 1 poached egg and a slice of wheat toast for breakfast with coffee(153 calories), lunch is a sandwich on wheat toast, 3 oz of ham, 1 slice of tomato with mustard and a medium apple (298 calories) dinner is usually a grilled shrimp salad or something similar under 600 calories, and a snack of fruits in the evening (approx 100 calories. Total of 1200 to 1500 calories per day. One night a week I eat a real meal and usually saturday morning I eat a real breakfast. Even on the rare day i get a dessert or eat more I don't go over 2000-2500 calories which is what should maintain my weight. No way I can eat less and be a little satisfied so I guess it is what it is.
    you’re not eating enough. Your body has adapted and metabolism slowed. Start resistance training 3 days a week and eat a little more protein. The body adapts quickly, you have to shock it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike petro View Post
    you’re not eating enough. Your body has adapted and metabolism slowed. Start resistance training 3 days a week and eat a little more protein. The body adapts quickly, you have to shock it.
    you would be shocked at how many calories people actually eat in a day and think they are in a deficit. Yes, the body is always adapting to caloric changes and the more weight you lose the better it gets at conserving energy and the less calories it burns. It is tricky. But at the end, it is calories in vs calories out, you either eat at maintenance level or you expend more engery than you take in. I am not a fan of low carb diets for a lifestyle. I do not think that strict low fat diets are good either. all macros are equally important. For some reason people are fine with doing ungodly amounts of cardio yet run from weight training. cardio is only a tool for weight loss and is at the bottom of the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VA Bass;[URL="tel:13480619"
    13480619[/URL]]you would be shocked at how many calories people actually eat in a day and think they are in a deficit. Yes, the body is always adapting to caloric changes and the more weight you lose the better it gets at conserving energy and the less calories it burns. It is tricky. But at the end, it is calories in vs calories out, you either eat at maintenance level or you expend more engery than you take in. I am not a fan of low carb diets for a lifestyle. I do not think that strict low fat diets are good either. all macros are equally important. For some reason people are fine with doing ungodly amounts of cardio yet run from weight training. cardio is only a tool for weight loss and is at the bottom of the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VA Bass View Post
    For some reason people are fine with doing ungodly amounts of cardio yet run from weight training. cardio is only a tool for weight loss and is at the bottom of the list.
    This can’t be emphasized enough.
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    No soda. No sugar. No alcohol. Cut back on carbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveBrabec View Post
    No soda. No sugar. No alcohol. Cut back on carbs.
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    Problem is people think to get "fit" you need to work out 2hrs a day and eat chicken and broccoli every meal.

    Everybody is different. Its genetics. What works for me might not work for you and vise versa. If you want to get healthy do it over the long term. So what if it takes you 2 or 3 years to achieve a goal of of even 20lbs lost.

    Its been 30 years straight i've been in the gym. Not 5 years in 3 years off, 2 years in 5 years off. Most time I missed was 4 weeks with a broken ankle. Diet is key period. You can work out daily but if you eat like crap you will look and feel like crap. As far as the exercise as long as you are consistent if will benefit you. It greatly enhances the effects of the diet whether you are attempting to gain or lose weight, but in the end it is the diet.

    Also there is a difference in being healthy and looking fit. The things people take and do to their bodies to achieve a certain look is not always healthy. You can have alcohol, you can have ice cream, you can have sugar, but in moderation.

    My best general advice is to get active and track calories. Its that simple on a high level. It always is calories in vs calories out. Make it enjoyable. If its something that you hate doing its not going to last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bayouXpress View Post
    Problem is people think to get "fit" you need to work out 2hrs a day and eat chicken and broccoli every meal.

    Everybody is different. Its genetics. What works for me might not work for you and vise versa. If you want to get healthy do it over the long term. So what if it takes you 2 or 3 years to achieve a goal of of even 20lbs lost.

    Its been 30 years straight i've been in the gym. Not 5 years in 3 years off, 2 years in 5 years off. Most time I missed was 4 weeks with a broken ankle. Diet is key period. You can work out daily but if you eat like crap you will look and feel like crap. As far as the exercise as long as you are consistent if will benefit you. It greatly enhances the effects of the diet whether you are attempting to gain or lose weight, but in the end it is the diet.

    Also there is a difference in being healthy and looking fit. The things people take and do to their bodies to achieve a certain look is not always healthy. You can have alcohol, you can have ice cream, you can have sugar, but in moderation.

    My best general advice is to get active and track calories. Its that simple on a high level. It always is calories in vs calories out. Make it enjoyable. If its something that you hate doing its not going to last.
    pretty much what he said. I eat a lot of chicken and broc, lean red meat, brown rice, veggies. Eat a bunch of protein. I eat tuna daily. I could be leaner and have been, but to keep that up all year is not healthy. I cheat one day a week for my sanity. I am passed the time of getting on a stage and being in contest mode.

    I spend about an hour in the gym 4 days a week. Any more than that and it's useless. Your weight training should be no longer than 45 mins. and if you do cardio then 1.25 hours is the max time you should be in the gym.
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    I weighed the most ever after going on a cruise (over 300lb.), gaining 11 pounds in 11 days, after that cruise I decided to lose weight. Slowly over about 10 years, I'm down to 234 lb, try to avoid cold cuts, white bread, chips and snacks, also avoid eating after 8 pm. Long way to go but headed in the right direction and my blood pressure has gone down to almost normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VA Bass View Post
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    correct, cut back not out on carbs
    the key to me is not fueling your bodyweight and activity level with carbs alone. I read a book a decade ago that helped me understand. Your body has a traffic cop- when she see's you have excees carbs she screams to the body-- store, store, store! We are in a surplus. The American diet of the average person is carb over kill. that is why most of us look like we are having a baby. I suspect that something about how are carbs are raised is at issue as well. I've spent years in Europe and they are not as fat as we are in spite of what they eat. since we live in the US, I suggest you eat some good carbs but stay away from "normal eating". Normal eating makes even 16 year old boys fat. If you are 50+, how many people in junior high were overweight?????? NOT many is the answer. If we think it is just gaming alone then I have swamp property in LA I'd like to sell you.
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    Everyones metabolism is different.
    Meat is plant based as a cow eats grass and changes it to red meat.
    Poultry is grain converted to meat or eggs.
    I'm so fed up with what our so called head food nutritionists come up with proper eating habits.
    In all my time on this planet, I have seen no less than 4 different food guides for healthy eating.
    Have you ever noticed that anyone who has authored a book on Human health have mostly passed away by mid 60's
    I find if feeling hungry, I'll drink a glass of water.
    When I retired 28 years ago I weighed 150 same weight as when I graduated college.
    Within 5 years was bouncing 210 for a guy who is only 5'4" and as I used to say I was as tall standing up as I was laying down.
    I was then diagnosed as type II diabetic and the doc told me, shape up.
    Started playing some ball in the summer and hockey in winter, and walking quite a bit.
    Results are in, still going strong, not consuming Barley sandwiches anymore, enjoying a bowl of soup a lot more often, and still enjoy going for power walks at the big shopping center.
    My day begins every morning at 4:00 am, power nap after lunch if not out fishing, and in bed right at 10:00 every night.
    I avoid fat greasy foods as much as possible, except on my steaks, NO Waste, No Taste!

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    Stay away from 1) seed oils -corn,vegetable,canola & sunflower. Use real butter , beef tallow to cook with 2) fake foods 3) fried 4) glutens

    Most people are nutritionally deficient ...if you are lacking in minerals, especially vanadium & chromium you on the path to high blood sugar ..When insulin comes to tell your cells to open up the cell will not open to receive the sugar. So the body is not able process it you will literally feel like you are fire eventually.
    Cholesterol is not a big deal if you are metabolically well...Your brain is a fat and cholesterol hungry organ. The nerves are covered by myelin sheet that's made of cholesterol. You never lose your memory ,you lose access to your memory. Cholesterol balances hormones .
    If the body is given the right materials its quite capable of healing itself.
    Try not to be sedentary like others have mentioned .get up and go walk especially after eating . Movement is not only critical for your heart but also the lymphatic system. It has no pump .It requires you to move your joints while maintaining good posture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolwhip View Post
    Key is no sugary drinks, or alcohol, and eat whole foods...stay away from processed foods...get whatever is close/on the ground for food.
    This is what I do. And this will be insanely gross to many but your poop will be different too with really healthy food. I ate Texican food out last week and my body quickly let me know that I sinned...BAD. When in the grocery store look at the people and what's in their cart. Most of the time what's in the cart will closely match how the one pushing it looks and acts. I had some health issues that were at least mostly reversed with a diet and lifestyle change. Don't need pain killers nearly as much as I used to thanks to mostly cutting out gluten. No more blood sugar crashes either. Was 255 and down to 213 and pushing to be in the 190's for my goal weight. Also need to buy smaller clothes but that's a good thing. AND I don't need to use a leaning seat in the boat much these days unless the water is rough.
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