Last edited by Wayne P.; 07-28-2022 at 08:26 AM.
Wayne Purdum
Charlottesville, Va.
Helix 12 CHIRP MEGA+ SI G3N/G4N, Helix 15 CHIRP MEGA SI+ GPS G4N
SOLIX 12 SI/G3, Helix 8 CHIRP MEGA SI+ G4N, Ultrex 80/LINK, MEGA360,
MEGA LIVE, LIVE TL
Hey Wayne , what size aluminum billet would be a good starting point for this project ?
Wayne Purdum
Charlottesville, Va.
Helix 12 CHIRP MEGA+ SI G3N/G4N, Helix 15 CHIRP MEGA SI+ GPS G4N
SOLIX 12 SI/G3, Helix 8 CHIRP MEGA SI+ G4N, Ultrex 80/LINK, MEGA360,
MEGA LIVE, LIVE TL
Looks like the parent company for the gas spring is a Korean company called Hanil.
Wayne Purdum
Charlottesville, Va.
Helix 12 CHIRP MEGA+ SI G3N/G4N, Helix 15 CHIRP MEGA SI+ GPS G4N
SOLIX 12 SI/G3, Helix 8 CHIRP MEGA SI+ G4N, Ultrex 80/LINK, MEGA360,
MEGA LIVE, LIVE TL
I talked to a "Marine Engineering Specialist" at Bansbach and did an in-depth detail of what is needed and why. Supposed to hear back in a couple of days.
BTW, the overall length is not as critical as the compressed length since it only affects the vertical position of the Yoke when stowed.
Wayne Purdum
Charlottesville, Va.
Helix 12 CHIRP MEGA+ SI G3N/G4N, Helix 15 CHIRP MEGA SI+ GPS G4N
SOLIX 12 SI/G3, Helix 8 CHIRP MEGA SI+ G4N, Ultrex 80/LINK, MEGA360,
MEGA LIVE, LIVE TL
Wayne Purdum
Charlottesville, Va.
Helix 12 CHIRP MEGA+ SI G3N/G4N, Helix 15 CHIRP MEGA SI+ GPS G4N
SOLIX 12 SI/G3, Helix 8 CHIRP MEGA SI+ G4N, Ultrex 80/LINK, MEGA360,
MEGA LIVE, LIVE TL
Great thread, gaining a lot from this. Tired of pulling my guts out to retract my Ultrex! When someone does a production run on the yoke/trunion piece I hope they can update, I want one.
Last edited by electritek; 08-02-2022 at 09:48 PM.
2020 Ranger 521L Tour, 300 Mercury, 112 Minn Kota Ultrex
3 12" Helix Units, Mega Si, Mega Di, Mega 360, Garmin 8412 W LiveScope mounted on Rite Hite Turret.
My two cents……. I’ve been running the TS&S lift assist boost system for several months. Through my trial error on different lift forces, trying several different pounds lift gas shocks, I would want a total of 300 pounds of lift force or 1334N give or take 30 pounds. I initially tried 1570N where deployment/stowing was very easy except I had to step on the Ultrex arm to lock it down. I ran 1214N where deployment was easy, stowing required less force than my Ultrex without the Mega 360 and Mega Live on a motorized pole without adding additional weight to the Ultrex arm to lock it down.
‘22 Ranger Z520R - Mercury 250 Pro XS
Humminbird/Minn Kota One Boat Network
You present a very good question of the placement of the gas springs and any differential in lift force. If I were to err on too much lift force versus too little, I don’t want to have to step on the Ultrex to lock it down. Adding 400N to 500N to the stock 860N is a heck of a lot of benefit for me. I hope all this turns into a viable option for those that need the help.
‘22 Ranger Z520R - Mercury 250 Pro XS
Humminbird/Minn Kota One Boat Network
I think two of the Minnkota 770N gas springs is about right for the MEGA 360/MEGA LIVE/Target Lock installation for the 24V motor.
The 36V motors weigh more.
Another thing pointed out when I picked up a couple more adapters yesterday, the distance of the lower unit from the mount affects the effort to stow/deploy. If you have to use the motor's full shaft length that will be different than keeping it as shallow as possible.
If you have a 52" 36V motor and use all of the shaft length, the dual 860N may be best or a combo 770N/860N.
Wayne Purdum
Charlottesville, Va.
Helix 12 CHIRP MEGA+ SI G3N/G4N, Helix 15 CHIRP MEGA SI+ GPS G4N
SOLIX 12 SI/G3, Helix 8 CHIRP MEGA SI+ G4N, Ultrex 80/LINK, MEGA360,
MEGA LIVE, LIVE TL
Is anyone producing the two-piston attachment block ? Lifting the trolling motor is keeping me off the water for now until my back heals.
BassCat Puma
250 ProXs
Humminbird Electronic's
Helix 12 G4
Solix 12x2 G3
Mega 360
Mega Live
Minn Kota Ultrex MDI
Relion Batteries
Dexter Suspension System
An intelligently designed mount would have a high integrity spring that could have multiple position configurations to account for various accessories.
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The Bansbach gas springs are adjustable. You start with one at or above the power you think you need and if it is too much, you open the valve (have to purchase the tool) to let off some gas pressure to suit the load. If you do too much, you can send it back to be recharged.
BUT so far there is not a stock one that fits what is needed as described in threads above. The number one thing is its compressed length when the motor is deployed.
Wayne Purdum
Charlottesville, Va.
Helix 12 CHIRP MEGA+ SI G3N/G4N, Helix 15 CHIRP MEGA SI+ GPS G4N
SOLIX 12 SI/G3, Helix 8 CHIRP MEGA SI+ G4N, Ultrex 80/LINK, MEGA360,
MEGA LIVE, LIVE TL