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    Little frustrating

    Would love to get my hands on a Nikon Z9, but there are 0 to be had. Places have long list of preorder reservations.
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    That's a nice looking camera. I haven't looked at any in a while but it seems they've gotten alot of cool features in the past few years. Mirrorless was just coming out last I looked.

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    From reviews I have seen, it looks like a badazz camera. I was hoping it would push prices down on the dslr line but that doesn't seem to be happening yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by flathead266 View Post
    From reviews I have seen, it looks like a badazz camera. I was hoping it would push prices down on the dslr line but that doesn't seem to be happening yet
    Definitely a badazz camera, the autofocus and such is way ahead of other options. But doubt it will lower prices, still a big push on DLSR's to do more and more.

    For now will stick with my D500, it's discontinued but has been a good camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdog7198 View Post
    Definitely a badazz camera, the autofocus and such is way ahead of other options. But doubt it will lower prices, still a big push on DLSR's to do more and more.

    For now will stick with my D500, it's discontinued but has been a good camera.

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    I would love a d500 to replace my d300. Haven't made the leap to full frame. I've been shooting more film than anything recently
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    The D500 has been discontinued, there are a few out there for decent prices.

    Have not jumped to full frame yet either, But think I am just going to go mirrorless when I do.
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    Maybe I'm stubbornly old school but I just don't like EVF's. I know of some serious photographers who switched back to DSLR's after jumping on the mirrorless bandwagon. I love the fact they are quiet which is definitely a big plus shooting weddings, but I just don't see enough advantages to switch yet. A few weeks ago I had a guy ask me my opinion of mirrorless as he was considering doing the switch. He asked me how much better his images would look compared to his current Canon 5D. I told him it would improve just as much as a new keyboard would help his spelling. The huge file sizes are a drawback too. Nobody really needs 45mp's in the first place, but the storage required and processing will tax all but the best computer systems while editing. heck, the 36mp of my D810's is more than I need in reality. Camera manufacturers have to hard sell new technology for their bottom lines. Cameras are tools, they don't replace skill or shorten the learning curve.

    Don't even get me started on lenses,lol
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    Digital faced some of the same issues when they first came out. I think mirrorless will be the same, over time they will surpass dlsr.

    I do not mind the extra file size, have 10TB of space now, and its cheap.
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    Replacing film with an electronic means of capturing an image is vastly different than removing the mirror and prism from camera's using the same imaging technology. When camera technology advances in ways that improve my end results, I'm all in! Advanced digital sensors allowing cleaner images at high iso's are a game changer for what I do. Mirrorless doesn't make that difference for me. The simple fact that there's lag time with the EVF would be a detriment for me. There was a time when I chased the newest gear thinking I was just "That camera" or "that lens" away from greatness. I was convinced my limitations were all in my gear. I was wrong. I'm not saying you don't need quality equipment because that does matter. I'm talking about the manufacturers advertising in a way that makes people think last years camera model is obsolete to this years. Most people upgrade gear long before they were anywhere near getting the most out of what they already had. My photography never improved as much as it did when I stopped focusing on gear and started really learning the craft.
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    Just saying things will improve as the tech for mirrorless gets better. I am a tech head so these things intrigue me. Better equipment does help, one thing which helped me a lot as I try to learn is going from a D5200 to a D500. Still a crop sensor but vastly better for the birding I do most, especially birds in flight. Not running out to buy a Z9 anytime soon, but if I decide to go full frame will probably straight to mirrorless. Would love to try one out though. Still have a lot to learn with the D500 which is part of the fun
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    I went from a D300 to D500 and still learning what all this camera is capable of doing. I have a D700 also for full frame.
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    When it comes to shooting Birds-in-Flight I am all in with mirrorless!
    Went from a Canon 5D4 and a 7D2 to a R5. Took a few months to get comfortable with the change but I would not go back to a DSLR.
    I now have two R5 bodies, one setup with a RF 600 f4L and the other with an EF 100-400 f4.5-5.6L when shooting Birds-in-Flight, like Eagles at Conowingo Dam.
    (1) Animal eye AF, my hit rate is far beyond any DSLR, not even close. (2) 20 frames per sec RAW, no black out. (3) No lens calibration needed, focus is done on the sensor. (4) EVF, you see the exposure in real time. You can make exposure changes while shooting and see the change. (5) IBIS, wow up to 8 stops of image stabilization. (6) The full sensor is available for AF, once Animal Eye AF locks on you only need to keep the bird in the view finder, unlike a DSLR where you must keep a fixed AF point or group on the bird. (7) When shooting BIF the more mp's the better. Most BIF photos are cropped. I shoot using Canons new "C-RAW" and my file sizes are around 24MB using a 45mp sensor. Nikon and Sony have their version of "C-RAW" also.

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    I have mirrorless in the m43 format, but something about dslr I can't seem to shake. I'm hoping to add a D800/810 to my stable shortly for full frame and film scanning. I have the Olympus m10 mkII for a smaller dslr and it is a very surprising little camera.
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