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    Adding As GPS HS Question

    I currently have an older AS GR50 GPS module on the stern which is on the network and will be adding an AS GPS HS so I can mark and see waypoints on my M360. My question is, is there any value in leaving the older module on the stern and does it make any difference where I mount the new module? Should it be up front near the unit with the M360?

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    If you have Helix units, put it at the bow.
    With SOLIX units it can be anywhere since you can subscribe to heading separate from GPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne P. View Post
    If you have Helix units, put it at the bow.
    With SOLIX units it can be anywhere since you can subscribe to heading separate from GPS.
    They are all Helix units so I’ll put it up front. Thanks Wayne

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    For the most accurate waypoints one on the stern as close to the si as possible without interference. The one on the bow as close to the 360 without interference. Start the big motor on the hose and have the tm on. Use the compass app on your phone to detect magnetic interference before mounting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne P. View Post
    If you have Helix units, put it at the bow.
    With SOLIX units it can be anywhere since you can subscribe to heading separate from GPS.
    Wayne, would this mean that once the AS GPS HS is setup you could get rid of the Ultrex heading sensor? Assuming everything is hooked through I Pilot Link? Or does the trolling motor still need its own heading?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicapopolis View Post
    Wayne, would this mean that once the AS GPS HS is setup you could get rid of the Ultrex heading sensor? Assuming everything is hooked through I Pilot Link? Or does the trolling motor still need its own heading?
    No you still need the Ultrex sensor for the trolling motors "Jog" feature to work

    The ultrex can not subscribe or use the AS GPS HS sensor
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    No you still need the Ultrex sensor for the trolling motors "Jog" feature to work

    The ultrex can not subscribe or use the AS GPS HS sensor
    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicapopolis View Post
    Wayne, would this mean that once the AS GPS HS is setup you could get rid of the Ultrex heading sensor? Assuming everything is hooked through I Pilot Link? Or does the trolling motor still need its own heading?
    If you have iPilot LINK, you don't need the AS GPS HS. You can subscribe to iPilot LiNK as the source for Heading and GPS.

    A lot easier than trying to find a magnetic interference free area for the AS GPS HS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne P. View Post
    If you have iPilot LINK, you don't need the AS GPS HS. You can subscribe to iPilot LiNK as the source for Heading and GPS.

    A lot easier than trying to find a magnetic interference free area for the AS GPS HS.

    Correct. I am aware of that, but I wanted the GPS to be closer to the rear transducer.

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    Also the HS and GPS data is not available when the motor is in the stowed position

    Not to mention it takes a minute or two ..even three or four before your graph will link with the trolling motors HS/GPS
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicapopolis View Post
    Correct. I am aware of that, but I wanted the GPS to be closer to the rear transducer.
    If you have Helix units and put the AS GPS HS at the transom and subscribe to that for the bow unit for heading, your bow unit's GPS location will be at the transom with a position error that is the length of the boat.
    You cannot subscribe to heading separate from GPS with Helix units.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne P. View Post
    If you have Helix units and put the AS GPS HS at the transom and subscribe to that for the bow unit for heading, your bow unit's GPS location will be at the transom with a position error that is the length of the boat.
    You cannot subscribe to heading separate from GPS with Helix units.
    These will be SOLIX units, so I believe I can use GPS location at the transom for the console unit and GPS from the trolling motor for the bow unit, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicapopolis View Post
    These will be SOLIX units, so I believe I can use GPS location at the transom for the console unit and GPS from the trolling motor for the bow unit, correct?
    GPS from the AS GPS HS for the console unit.
    AS GPS HS Heading for the bow unit.
    Internal GPS for the bow unit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne P. View Post
    GPS from the AS GPS HS for the console unit.
    AS GPS HS Heading for the bow unit.
    Internal GPS for the bow unit.
    10-4. That makes perfect sense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewM-Fishing View Post
    For the most accurate waypoints one on the stern as close to the si as possible without interference. The one on the bow as close to the 360 without interference. Start the big motor on the hose and have the tm on. Use the compass app on your phone to detect magnetic interference before mounting.
    I think that is what I’m going to try and do, leave AS GR50 GPS on the the stern near the SI transducer and locate the AS GPS HS upfront near my bow units. I’m assuming I can subscribe to the module I what to use at each location?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lauzon4 View Post
    I think that is what I’m going to try and do, leave AS GR50 GPS on the the stern near the SI transducer and locate the AS GPS HS upfront near my bow units. I’m assuming I can subscribe to the module I what to use at each location?
    Yes
    If the GR50 is connected to a XX9 or Helix, both of your units will have 4 choices for a GPS source===two internal and two external.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne P. View Post
    GPS from the AS GPS HS for the console unit.
    AS GPS HS Heading for the bow unit.
    Internal GPS for the bow unit.
    I know this seems simple, but this is excellent information!!!! Short, clear and concise! Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewM-Fishing View Post
    For the most accurate waypoints one on the stern as close to the si as possible without interference. The one on the bow as close to the 360 without interference. Start the big motor on the hose and have the tm on. Use the compass app on your phone to detect magnetic interference before mounting.
    What would interference look like on the compass? Spinning? Pointing in the wrong direction?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone357 View Post
    What would interference look like on the compass? Spinning? Pointing in the wrong direction?
    Wrong direction.
    A compass is a magnet. Its South Pole aligns with the Earth's North Pole---opposites attract.
    If the compass is not pointing North, there is "interference" caused by another magnet, electro-magnet, or ferrous metal. Keep the compass far enough from those and there will be no "interference".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne P. View Post
    Wrong direction.
    A compass is a magnet. Its South Pole aligns with the Earth's North Pole---opposites attract.
    If the compass is not pointing North, there is "interference" caused by another magnet, electro-magnet, or ferrous metal. Keep the compass far enough from those and there will be no "interference".
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