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    Emerging Market Bonds

    Looking at EBND for a small position just to get some exposure to non-dollar denominated bonds. Anybody do any investing in emerging market debt? Would like to look at a few more ETFS to compare so interested to see if anyone has any recomendations.

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    I used to look at some emerging market funds (standard mutual funds). I never felt comfortable pulling the trigger. Even though some years the funds did very well.

    Post 2009 financial crash, I have not looked at Foriegn or Emerging market funds. I just do not have enough knowledge to feel comfortable.

    Emerging market debt may be interesting. I read an article where China is loaning to many emerging countries. However, they are asking for real estate collateral. A port, airport, or things like that. If the loan defaults, China still wins.

    What type of collateral do the debt funds obtain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Prestridge View Post
    I used to look at some emerging market funds (standard mutual funds). I never felt comfortable pulling the trigger. Even though some years the funds did very well.

    Post 2009 financial crash, I have not looked at Foriegn or Emerging market funds. I just do not have enough knowledge to feel comfortable.

    Emerging market debt may be interesting. I read an article where China is loaning to many emerging countries. However, they are asking for real estate collateral. A port, airport, or things like that. If the loan defaults, China still wins.

    What type of collateral do the debt funds obtain?
    These are almost entirely sovereign debt not corporate debt so I am not sure how they collateralize them. I need to take a deeper look but was sort of thinking about buying a small portion just in case the dollar heads lower. It will be a small piece if I decide to do it as the drawdown is more equity like than bond like. I'm really just looking at it for asset allocation purposes to diversify away from dollar exposure.

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    So little transparency, poor regulation in many of these developing or emerging markets. I understand diversification but I always felt I was adding the wrong kind of risk/variability with these markets, that adding this risk would (at best) neutralize any intended benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoilermakerZ519 View Post
    So little transparency, poor regulation in many of these developing or emerging markets. I understand diversification but I always felt I was adding the wrong kind of risk/variability with these markets, that adding this risk would (at best) neutralize any intended benefit.
    The credit risk is very big with these. I think the average of the ETF I bought is BB. I sort of weighed the interest rate risk vs the credit risk and I thought the interest rate risk was higher with yields this low. My position is extremely small as I am waiting to put 95% of my bond exposure in A or better rated corporates but I may be waiting until I’m 80 for there to be any meaningful yields