I remember somebody on the boards telling me where this can be bought in the 600yd spools?Originally Posted by Jeff Hahn
I remember somebody on the boards telling me where this can be bought in the 600yd spools?
2017 Phoenix 819
2016 200ProXS, s/n 2B359849, Mod 1200P73BD
I've never seen 600 yard spools. There are 300 yard spools and then 1/4 pound spools. The amount on the 1/4 pound spools varies depending on the pound test. Here's the chart for the Platinum, although the XXX and their First String Mon are also the same:
Izorline Platinum Clear & Green & Hi-Vis Yellow Monofilament
Premium Co-Polymer Monofilament - Simply The Best!
Available in these convenient spool sizes:
LBS APPROXIMATE YARDS TEST 300 YARDS 1/4LB 1/2LB 1LB 1KG (2.2LB) 2KG (4.4LB) 2 300* 6000* 4 300 3350 6 300 2150 4300* 8620** 8 300 1700 6870 10 300 1500 5970 12 300 1100 4400 9670* 15 300 840 3370 7400* 20 300 670 2670 5870* 11740** 25 300 530 2140 4700* 30 300 450 1780 3950* 40 370* 1480 3270 50 275* 1090 2400 4800** 60 210* 830 1820 80 650 1440 2900** 100 540** 1200** 2400** 135 1640**
"The man of system is apt to be very wise in his own conceit; and is often so enamored with the supposed beauty of his own ideal plan of government that he cannot suffer the smallest deviation from any part of it…He seems to imagine that he can arrange the different members of a great society with as much ease as the hand arranges the different pieces upon a chessboard.” Adam Smith, The Theory of Moral Sentiments
2017 Phoenix 819
2016 200ProXS, s/n 2B359849, Mod 1200P73BD
Thanks everyone! The reasoning is because of the deep spool and to fill a 200 Tat of fluorocarbon would not be cheap. Still want to achieve the depth of a C-15 or 6XD with mono or try anyways
I always want to try Izorline after these threads come up, at least as a leader in situations where some stretch would be okay, then I always get hung up on diameters. The 10 lb diameter seems pretty reasonable at 0.30 mm (compare to 12 lb Sniper at 0.29 mm), but man when you look at 12 lb test it’s a huge jump. Their 12 lb is 0.35 mm, same diameter as 18 lb Sunline. I always preach going off diameter instead of rating, but I’m not sure I could get past the mental block of throwing a Chatterbait or spinnerbait or swim jig on 12 lb test...
That said, I’d try the 10 lb cranking if it’s low stretch like Sniper!
2011 Skeeter ZX225
225 Yamaha HPDI Series 2
Minn Kota Ultrex 112 52"
Console: HDS 16 Carbon
Bow: HDS 12 Carbon, Solix 12 G2, Mega 360, Garmin 106 SV, LVS 34
But the Sunline is at the lower end of diameter for comparable pound test I believe. Is for the mono I know, small diameter.
2017 Phoenix 819
2016 200ProXS, s/n 2B359849, Mod 1200P73BD
Totally fair.
I still have probably 3 issues with this: The first is completely on me, to be fair, but I know what my baits do with a given line diameter. Change that and it's going to change other stuff as well. I really wish that companies would adopt some universal measurement system for this, maybe the Japanese PE rating system is a good one? Anyhow, that's neither here nor there as it's what we've got.
More importantly, when a company has way thicker lines for a given lb test, I have to start discounting claims from those that use it who say that it's strong, abrasion resistant, low stretch, etc. The fact is that most anglers aren't aware that there's a huge diameter difference for a given lb test across different brands. And if I substituted 18 lb in all the places where I'd use 12 lb now and thought it was 12 lb, I have no doubt I'd say it's unbelievable how strong, abrasion resistant, and low stretch it is compared to other 12 lb lines. Finally, that just leaves a huge gap in line sizes. As I said, I could see myself using the 10 lb, but to not have any options between that and where I'd now use 18 lb is a problem. That's heavier than I want to throw a lot of stuff on including basically all of my moving baits. And again, even though I'm pretty confident that the lb test ratings mean very little, if they're rating a diameter as 12lb and another company is rating it 18, it's not exactly confidence inspiring if I put something labeled as 12 lb to use where I'd normally be using 18.
I'm going to buy a spool of the 10 and 12 and try it as a leader if nothing else. Too many smart people have been recommending it for too long for me to continue ignoring it. Maybe I can actually spool the 10 up for cranks if it doesn't stretch much--I'd be thrilled if that were the case. I end up respooling my cranking rod probably less than I should now due to the cost.
2011 Skeeter ZX225
225 Yamaha HPDI Series 2
Minn Kota Ultrex 112 52"
Console: HDS 16 Carbon
Bow: HDS 12 Carbon, Solix 12 G2, Mega 360, Garmin 106 SV, LVS 34
Drew: I understand where you are coming from. I don’t know of any line company who lists their lines at their exact break strength. So, when choosing lines based on diameter, you will have to choose different pounds test from different manufacturers.
As far as Izorline goes, I use the 12 pound for Texas rigging, 8 pound on my spinning rod, 10 pound for crankbaits and jerkbaits, and 15 pound for vibrating jigs, jigs, spinnerbaits, buzz baits and Carolina rig.
Have you used Hi-viz yellow?
All considered, I'm still a little leary of a 10lb Sunline. Just one little nick and you're done. So I go up in pound test based on the diameter. It handles pretty well, lasts ok, but I'm gonna try the IZ Platinum too. I wish I could get to the point of using just one, but in my quest for the next better line I'm left with a box with a lot of variety. But right now it's mostly Sunline......Yo-Zuri.....some Sufix.......and now Seguar.
2017 Phoenix 819
2016 200ProXS, s/n 2B359849, Mod 1200P73BD
I also go by diameter before (advertised) pound test.. One of my best friends won't throw anything but 12# P-line on his deep cranks.. Claims it's the only 12# line he cant break.
I'm pretty much stuck on Seguar either Invizx or Abrazx.. Have tried the 10# tatsu but not convinced it's worth the cost. But Ok for leader..
Something I hadn't paid attention to before was diameter of braid. I've been using braid to floro and there's a big difference in size and smoothness.
Big Game 10lb down deep.
Craig
2018 Bass Cat Margay
150 HP Mercury Four Stroke
No, I have not tried the hi-vis yellow. I have used the clear, but 90% of the time I use the green.
"The man of system is apt to be very wise in his own conceit; and is often so enamored with the supposed beauty of his own ideal plan of government that he cannot suffer the smallest deviation from any part of it…He seems to imagine that he can arrange the different members of a great society with as much ease as the hand arranges the different pieces upon a chessboard.” Adam Smith, The Theory of Moral Sentiments
I am in the minority. I use mono or co-polymer on the vast majority of my gear. Grew up with mono.
no doubt most of us older guys did as well. some of us remember dacron before mono.
I still use mono for certain presentations but the older I get the more I like the sensitivity and low stretch of fluorocarbon plus it allows me to use smaller weights when wanting to get down deep.
Been doing this for years.
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Merc V8 200 4S
I would stick with your left handed reels if that is what you are used to. I have been down the Izorline path and is was some of the most unruly stuff I can remember, Suffix Advance was right there with it. I am going to try #13 Sunline Defier this year for treble hooks. We used #12 Sunline Crank FC last year for deep cranks and it was good for that application. Had a backlash incident and only had #12 Berkley Big Game in the boat to replace the FC with and really didn't notice that much difference. I have not tried that Sunline Mono yet but all the other Sunline products I have experimented with have been good. Really hard to beat Big Game though for just being consistent and all around friendly.
I took Jeff Hahn advice a year ago on trying Izorline. Great line! 10lb for Cranks.
Berkley Trilene XT in 10lb works for me.
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