I've always wanted to use a Ned, but where I live there's too much grass for any open hook stuff. He's taking a Finesse Rugby Jighead and Texas Rigging. Anyone try this, or something similar? Colors? Bite slow so I'm hoping this may be good in tough conditions.
Actually you can rig any of the Zman jig heads weedless. Brian Latimer was discussing this on one of his your tube videos. Been doing the way he shows since and it does a really good job. He just rigged it like he does a Texas rig
Wouldn't that be the same thing as a shakey head?
Thought the same thing, sure sounds like it.
Originally Posted by bassfisher444
I have been using the Flatlands custom tackle weedless heads and they work very well around heavy cover
That exposed hook in the grass isn't nearly as bad as you'd think, especially if you're not using a Ned head that's too heavy. If it's burying up, use a lighter head or move it faster. Use too heavy of a head (too heavy to be a Ned rig) and make it weedless and yep, it's just a shakey head.
Otherwise, we fish heavier (1/8-1/4 and sometimes heavier) mushroom style jigs that have bigger exposed hooks (like 3/0 or 4/0) paired with a Senko or ribbontail around here in the grass all the time. You intentionally let it get hung in the grass then rip it free. They'll crush it as soon as it pops out. You'd be surprised. Folks around here call it jigworming. Similar story with snapping a tube through the grass, you've got an exposed hook there as well.
The only time I'd worry about a weedless Ned is around brush, or I suppose around really snaggy boulders. I grew up fishing the latter in WV where the rivers are all very old and where there are a bunch of different types of rock all cobbled together. That stuff is super snaggy. Doubt you're running into much of that in Florida though!
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Do not know why it would be a shakey You are just turning the hook around and actually you can I guess call it whatever you want. I just know I can fish a TRD like that and not get hung up in grass. Do not need any different hooks or you can use the Flatlands hooks and use them . they are weedless but they would be a shakey head also?
Finesse BulletZ or the NedlockZ EWG if you really need a weedless rig.
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But, as Drew talks about, it is very effective to fish with an open hook as well on weed edges or around sparse grass.
How about a spot remover head??
I don't understand a few things about the ned rig. I can understand the downsized baits, but those jigs, especially with the open hooks, are weird to me. Is it meant to be fished on the bottom? If so, why not just use a 1/8 to 1/4 oz shakey head jig? And if not, why bother with any weight at all? I fish a weightless senko a lot, and I feel like it gets me enough fish on a slow fall.
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The Ned heads that many people fish are very light weight, even though the bait is fished on the bottom. With the buoyancy of the Elaztech TRD or half a Strike King Zero with the light weight jighead, the bait has a very slow fall and a tantalizing slow drift to the bottom when you move it. That being said, there’s no reason you could not use an 1/8 or even 1/4 oz. shakey head. It will still have the same profile as a light weight Ned rig, but not the slow fall.I don't understand a few things about the ned rig. I can understand the downsized baits, but those jigs, especially with the open hooks, are weird to me. Is it meant to be fished on the bottom? If so, why not just use a 1/8 to 1/4 oz shakey head jig? And if not, why bother with any weight at all? I fish a weightless senko a lot, and I feel like it gets me enough fish on a slow fall.
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A lot of the shakey heads come with large hooks, I like a #2 hook on my ned rig heads. It's less snaggy than a larger hook and the shorter hook shank leaves more free plastic and allows the plastic to move with little input from the rod.I don't understand a few things about the ned rig. I can understand the downsized baits, but those jigs, especially with the open hooks, are weird to me. Is it meant to be fished on the bottom? If so, why not just use a 1/8 to 1/4 oz shakey head jig? And if not, why bother with any weight at all? I fish a weightless senko a lot, and I feel like it gets me enough fish on a slow fall.
It is tough to find shroom heads with #2 hooks with weed guards. There isn't any underwater vegetation to speak of in the lakes I fish, but lots of rocks and timber. Ned heads or any jighead for that matter with wide gap hooks and no weed guards are going to get hung up all the time.
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