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    Abnormal inner tire wear Why?

    I was backing my trailer into the driveway the other day and noticed the one tire on the driver side is wearing badly on the inside tread. I replaced the tire but why is this happening? This is a 2009 Ranger Trail trailer. Three years ago the cool hubs were swapped out for Vortex hubs.

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    Are the tires original 11 year old rubber?

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    check shackle bushings, etc
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    Bent spindle is the most likely problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke View Post
    Are the tires original 11 year old rubber?
    That particular tire was new 3 years ago.

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    check shackle bushings, etc
    Are shackle bushings on a trailer with leaf springs? My trailer has no leaf springs. I believe they have torsion bar suspension.

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    You need to inspect the axle to bracket welds very closely, known problem on the TDE axles.
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    Hmm. Friend of mine just replaced both of his Ranger tires. The outside could have gone another 30,000 miles, the insides maybe 3000 if lucky.
    Torsion arm trailers......

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    The torsion arms twist making neg. camber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketbilly View Post
    The torsion arms twist making neg. camber.
    No, they don’t. You’d have to put many times the rated weight on a torsion axle trailer to get any significant camber change from a torsion arm twisting, and when you did it wouldn’t just happen on a single tire. The trailer frame or wheel would likely fail first. The torsion arm is likely the strongest piece of metal on the trailer.
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    I just moved my left tire to the right side cause the inside is almost slick. Was gonna try and get another year out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CatFan View Post
    No, they don’t. You’d have to put many times the rated weight on a torsion axle trailer to get any significant camber change from a torsion arm twisting, and when you did it wouldn’t just happen on a single tire. The trailer frame or wheel would likely fail first. The torsion arm is likely the strongest piece of metal on the trailer.
    I have followed some torsion bar trailers down the road, and seen the wheels go through immense camber changes when they go through their range of motion. Statically they might be O K but when loaded it's a different story.

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    Had this happen on a 2010 Ranger Trail Trailer. The rubber in the axel had weakened allowing the wheels to squat enough to wear the insides of the tires. $800 dollar axle from Ranger fixed it.

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    Was having the same problem. I found out that the spindle was loose on the torsion axle. Jackup the trailer and wiggle the tire while looking at the spindle If you see or feel any movement then you have to tork it down to 150lbs. I was also told to apply lock tight to the bolt? A place to start and might be a easy fix. Some place to start!!

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    I guess it’s just me being “old school,” but it seems that torsion axle trailer suspensions are similar to oil bath hubs...to me, both are a solution looking for a problem. Leaf springs and grease hubs have worked very well on boat trailers for many decades...yet boat manufacturers felt the need to switch to the new technology that resulted in as many problems as it allegedly solved.
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    If it’s just one side its a bent spindle. Only takes one curb.
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    Cheap tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstbass View Post
    Was having the same problem. I found out that the spindle was loose on the torsion axle. Jackup the trailer and wiggle the tire while looking at the spindle If you see or feel any movement then you have to tork it down to 150lbs. I was also told to apply lock tight to the bolt? A place to start and might be a easy fix. Some place to start!!
    this happened to mine also. I easily could’ve lost one wheel and brake assembly that’s how loose one of the spindle arms was but all 4 were loose. I could wiggle every wheel easily and the really loose one did have inner tire wear. One bolt holds the entire wheel assembly to the axle. It’s now on the yearly maintenance schedule to remove wheels and torque that bolt on every wheel

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    Quote Originally Posted by champ223 View Post
    this happened to mine also. I easily could’ve lost one wheel and brake assembly that’s how loose one of the spindle arms was but all 4 were loose. I could wiggle every wheel easily and the really loose one did have inner tire wear. One bolt holds the entire wheel assembly to the axle. It’s now on the yearly maintenance schedule to remove wheels and torque that bolt on every wheel
    When you say 1 bolt, are you talking about the hub axle nut that holds the hub to the axle spindle?? That nut is what holds your hub and bearings on the correct position on the axle races, and should be adjusted by unloading the hub you are adjusting and tightening it until you can't turn the tire forcibly by hand, mine is 85 ft-lb. Now, your bearings are properly seated in the hub and on the races.
    Without turning the tire, back up the nut til loose, and face it against the large washer again turning it in just enough to get your cutter pin in the hole.
    Spin your tire to make sure it is turning freely and there is NO PLAY when you grab the tire top and bottom trying to move it in and out. Now, take your grease gun loaded with marine bearing grease and fill it through your Bearing Buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digthemup View Post
    When you say 1 bolt, are you talking about the hub axle nut that holds the hub to the axle spindle?? That nut is what holds your hub and bearings on the correct position on the axle races, and should be adjusted by unloading the hub you are adjusting and tightening it until you can't turn the tire forcibly by hand, mine is 85 ft-lb. Now, your bearings are properly seated in the hub and on the races.
    Without turning the tire, back up the nut til loose, and face it against the large washer again turning it in just enough to get your cutter pin in the hole.
    Spin your tire to make sure it is turning freely and there is NO PLAY when you grab the tire top and bottom trying to move it in and out. Now, take your grease gun loaded with marine bearing grease and fill it through your Bearing Buddy.
    He’s talking about the trailing arm, not the spindle.
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