The question is.
A Born
B Chosen
Pick A or B
The question is.
A Born
B Chosen
Pick A or B
B. for sure the way you have framed the question, but you really need to soak up what has been said.
Interesting Dig.........................who do you think the author of Romans was referencing in Romans 1 ?
Last edited by godsdozer; 10-12-2020 at 08:47 PM.
rexico, sorry I didn't see this post................................Now I think I understand your question. Ill be as direct as I can be when I answer this. Thanks
Here is something I will leave you with.
Rexico, I am not saying you are guilty of this because I do not know your heart.
A complex question, trick question, multiple question or plurium interrogationum (Latin, 'of many questions') is a question that has a presupposition that is complex. The presupposition is a proposition that is presumed to be acceptable to the respondent when the question is asked. The respondent becomes committed to this proposition when he gives any direct answer. The presupposition is called "complex" because it is a conjunctive proposition, a disjunctive proposition, or a conditional proposition. It could also be another type of proposition that contains some logical connective in a way that makes it have several parts that are component propositions.[1]
Complex questions can but do not have to be fallacious, as in being an informal fallacy.[
Last edited by godsdozer; 10-12-2020 at 09:54 PM.
This is what I mean................. 1. The bible states we are born sinners. 2. The bible states we choose to sin
Hope you understand why your question to the readers is somewhat complicated.
I will pray for the young man . Do you think he put something on his parking space to say the bible is wrong on homosexuality? Or what do you think his intentions were ?
We are all born into sin with a sin nature. The seed of every sin lies within every human heart. All humans are capable of every sin, but not every sin takes root. The sin that takes root in me may look different than the sin that takes root in you, but we all struggle. So in a sense it is born in us. Also, we are held accountable to our sin because we weren’t forced to do it, but we chose it. So is homosexuality born in us or chosen? I’d say both. Just as murder, gluttony, lies, stealing, pride, etc.
You cannot offend me and I'll try not to offend You (the "other me") Confirm this query is regarding sex or more specifically, 'homosexual sex' ? Is this Self 'born' a homosexual or did this Self 'choose' to be 'homosexual'?
reminder: Worship = war ship
*I agree typing 'we are all sinners' is a "blanket statement" and disingenuous at best especially One seeking the wisdom of the Magi and connecting to the Divine...
Why does it matter to you what we think???
Are you writing a dissertation on what our OPINIONS (a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge) reflect???
You say that you are aware of learning what GOD says and wants, but your statements clearly show that your have no desire to truly learn anything of what GOD or Christ wants of you. (when they knew God, they glorified him not as God)
Perhaps, if you would have taken the time to read Romans as suggested, not only would you have GOD's answer to your questions, but how worthless is man's opinion to GOD.
Men's opinions a subjective, for even the best man is but a man at best.
Last edited by digthemup; 10-13-2020 at 10:23 AM.
Romans 1 :
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things.
24 ¶ Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
25 who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 ¶ For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
This kinda pokes some holes in your "blanket statement", or maybe it was the cat you show in your picture.
Romans 1 :
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
25 who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
And where did You find Romans 1 in which text? That was a little bit further along where the One seeking the answer didn't want a 'blanket statement' as 'it's in the Bible' ...
Too busy typing and NOT reading?
The Tao Te Ching which predates the Bible has a little bit in it that reads 'the one who KNOWS does not talk; the One who talks does not know..' I'm certain Lao Tzu would not mind if You switched it to 'type' from 'talk' ...
Your play Sir
I believe that my answer is much more specific than' it's in the Bible'
Further, I could care less of Tao Te Ching, but I do wonder if he was related to Mao Tse tung or Ho Chi Minh. The later I know of them, but it is a shame that during their time I never got the call to put a tag on them.
BTW, for your enlightenment, the answer to your question is KJV/NKJV.
Don't forget to feed your cat!
I may have been to direct, but I never get a direct answer.
Rexico do you think your question has been answered?