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[OkieBud]

I wonder what doctor they will have on the news explaining the rapture and the disappearance of so many people? I won’t be here for it but it’s just a thought.
While the devil is preparing people for the Anti Christ, God is preparing people for the Rapture. I don’t know when the rapture will take place but I do believe it could be soon. I also believe this is a time that God is giving us a chance to repent. We need to get the Gospel message out!!! Until the Good Lord calls me away from this world to go home, I want to make it clear that I believe in Jesus Christ as the True Lord and Savior. Despite the fact that I am human, and I fail a lot, I believe that Jesus is the Son of God. I believe that He died on the cross as a sacrifice for our sins and that He rose from the dead on the third day. He loves us all dearly (far more than we deserve) and forgives our sins when we repent. His Word says John 3:16 "whosoever believeth in Me , should not perish but have ever lasting life.”
The Bible also says Matthew 10:33 "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which art in heaven
This is the best challenge I have seen on Facebook; so, if the Holy Spirit moves you and you’re not ashamed, just copy, and make this as your status update.
Can I get an Amen for being a believer in The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit?

[godsdozer]

I wonder what doctor they will have on the news explaining the rapture and the disappearance of so many people? I won’t be here for it but it’s just a thought.
While the devil is preparing people for the Anti Christ, God is preparing people for the Rapture. I don’t know when the rapture will take place but I do believe it could be soon. I also believe this is a time that God is giving us a chance to repent. We need to get the Gospel message out!!! Until the Good Lord calls me away from this world to go home, I want to make it clear that I believe in Jesus Christ as the True Lord and Savior. Despite the fact that I am human, and I fail a lot, I believe that Jesus is the Son of God. I believe that He died on the cross as a sacrifice for our sins and that He rose from the dead on the third day. He loves us all dearly (far more than we deserve) and forgives our sins when we repent. His Word says John 3:16 "whosoever believeth in Me , should not perish but have ever lasting life.”
The Bible also says Matthew 10:33 "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which art in heaven
This is the best challenge I have seen on Facebook; so, if the Holy Spirit moves you and you’re not ashamed, just copy, and make this as your status update.
Can I get an Amen for being a believer in The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit?

Thats a really strange post but hey its on facebook. One of the strangest sentences in that post is : "I don’t know when the rapture will take place .but I do believe it could be soon"

The inspired writers of the new testament said 2000 years ago Christ coming was to occure "soon" if I cant believe them, why in the world would I want to believe a facebook post ? , very strange indeed.

A rapture what is that ? The first writings of a rapture in christian history was in the 1800s by a radical christian woman named Margret Macdonald from England. John Darby and C.I. Scoffield along with a ton of other authors like Hal lindsey have made a small fortune from her supposed vision from God. It is sad how gullible people are from NON inspired people and yet read what they call inspired writers and dont believe them.

For those who really care to learn Gods word, please read the following and test it to see if it is true........


There are three important Greek words in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18: HARPAZO (“rapture”), AER (“air”), and APANTESIS (“meet”). The word HARPAZO does not necessarily mean physical removal. It can mean “to seize on, claim for one’s self.” An interesting example of another use of HARPAZO in the New Testament is 2 Corinthians 12:2-6. Paul tells how he was “caught up [HARPAZO] to the third heaven.” We do not know exactly what happened in this experience; perhaps Paul was in a trance (Acts 10:9; 22:17). But we do know that Paul remained on earth to tell the story. The term “caught up” in these contexts is closer to what we might say, “I was so caught up in the novel that I saw myself in the story.”


Interestingly, there are two words for “air” in Greek—AER and OURANOS. OURANOS means the upper atmosphere (this is where people think they will when the rapture happens lol) , while AER means the lower atmosphere, thus the air that we breathe. Paul specifically used AER in this passage. AER may have a spiritual connotation (see Ephesians 2:2). Your feet don’t have to leave the ground to be in the AER.

When Paul said Christians would “meet” (APANTESIS) the Lord in the air, this means the exact opposite of what modern rapturists think. The destination is earth!

The Greek word APANTESIS is found in only two other places in the New Testament. In Acts 28:15, believers from Rome went out to "meet" Paul and escort him back to their city. Similarly, in Matthew 25:1-10, the virgins went out to "meet" the bridegroom and escort him back to the wedding hall. Thus, the image evoked in 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 is that of believers being spiritually caught up to go out to meet and escort Jesus back to earth to begin his rule on earth. The idea of believers being physically transported to heaven in a literal rapture is foreign to the text.

One cannot read 1 Thessalonians 4 and miss the fact that Paul was teaching that the events he was describing would HAPPEN TO HIS CONTEMPORARIES. It would make no sense to the Thessalonians for Paul to be describing events that would happen thousands of years later.

Did Jesus ever say anything about a rapture? Actually, Jesus prayed AGAINST any rapture in the sense of physical removal! In John 17:15 we see his prayer to the Father, “I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one.” If Jesus asked for such, would the Father deny his request?

The Bible teaches that Jesus would return in some sense to CLAIM VICTORY (Romans 16:20; Revelation 12:7-12; 20:10), to REDEEM HIS PEOPLE (Luke 21:28; Romans 8:18-23; 13:11-12; Ephesians 1:13-14; 4:30; Hebrews 1:14; 9:26-28; 1 Peter 1:3-21; Revelation 12:10), and to BE WITH US forever (Revelation 21:3). And it would happen while some of the first-century disciples WERE STILL ALIVE (Matthew 10:23; 16:27-28; 26:64; Luke 21:22, 27, 28, 32, 36; etc.). Indeed, there are over 100 passages in the New Testament that set the timeline for the fulfillment of the eschatological events as the first century. The rapture is describing these same events.



Revelation teaches that the dwelling place of God is WITH MAN (Revelation 21:1-7). Futurists must take the position that we worship an absentee Lord.

[Jeff La]

Amen OkieBud !!!

Godsdozer, in laymen's terms, state simply your belief in end times. Do you believe the world as we know it will continue as it is now?

[CajunBass]

[godsdozer]

Amen OkieBud !!!

Godsdozer, in laymen's terms, state simply your belief in end times. Do you believe the world as we know it will continue as it is now?

Jeff, good afternoon. It is not my intention to communicate in a way people do not undertand, my apologies. I attempt to use as many scriptures found in bible to make my post understandble without writing a book LOL.

The "end times, last days, last day, the end of the age (old covenant age) ect all happend 2000 years ago at the destruction of Jerusalem as Jesus outlined in Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21. The rest of the new testament was written to console, teach, instruct the early church especially how they were to deal with and live through the "last days".

Will the world and the church remain forever...............Yes,

Ephesians 3:20-21 20Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us, 21to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen.


Doxology :
The Gloria Patri, so named for its Latin incipit, is commonly used as a doxology by Roman Catholics, Old Catholics, Independent Catholics, Orthodox, Anglicans, and many Protestants including Presbyterians, Lutherans, Methodists, Disciples of Christ and Reformed Baptists. It is called the "Lesser Doxology", thus distinguished from the "Great Doxology" (Gloria in Excelsis Deo), and is often called simply "the doxology". As well as praising God, it was regarded as a short declaration of faith in the equality of the three Persons of the Holy Trinity.
The Greek text,
Δόξα Πατρὶ καὶ Υἱῷ καὶ Ἁγίῳ Πνεύματικαὶ νῦν καὶ ἀεὶ καὶ εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων. Ἀμήν.is rendered into Latin as,
Gloria Patri, et Filio, et Spiritui Sancto. Sicut erat in principio, et nunc, et semper, et in sæcula sæculorum. Amen.which is literally translated
Glory [be] to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost.As it was in the beginning, and now, and always, and into the ages of ages. Amen."In saecula saeculorum", here rendered "ages of ages", is the calque of what was probably a Semitic idiom, via Koine Greek, meaning "forever." It is also rendered "world without end" in English, an expression also used in James I's Authorised Version of the Bible in Ephesians 3:21 and Isaiah 45:17. Similarly, "et semper" is often rendered "and ever shall be", thus giving the more metrical English version,
... As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.


Isaiah 45:17 : 17 But Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

[godsdozer]

If someone could provide one single clear and concise instance where Jesus or his apostles taught there would be a delay of his second appearing I am all ears. Yet over and over and over , they all claimed he was coming soon, near, at hand, shortly ect....................


Hebrews 10: 36You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised. 37For,“In just a little while,
he who is coming will come
and will not delay.” ^f

[godsdozer]

There is not one christian here on BBC who could provide one single clear and concise instance in the bible of any delay of Jesus' second appearing ?

[Jeff La]

There is not one single Christian on here who wants to argue with you over your beliefs. That's like arguing over whether Baptist or Catholics are better. You have your beliefs as does everyone else who is a Christian. The only way to salvation is through Jesus. If you believe in Jesus and that He was born of human origin, walked this earth, died and was resurrected, Then that' all it takes to be saved. I'm saved and I pray for all others as well.

[godsdozer]

Jeff, Thanks for comment , Im glad you are of the faith. Where did argue come from ?

Discussing, teaching, debating sound doctrine has little to do with Catholic or Baptist but rather the scriptures says they are :

2 Timothy 3:16 "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,"

Paul charges Titus, “You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine” (Titus 2:1).

1 Timothy 4:16 (ESV)

16 Keep a close watch on yourself and on the teaching. Persist in this, for by so doing you will save both yourself and your hearers.



Titus 1:9 (ESV)

9 He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.



The church has divisions because people think they are free to believe and teach whatever "they" believe is sound doctrine. This was Martin Luthers fear as well when he split off from the Catholic church and the reformation began. Now some 600 years later we see Luthers fear carried out to its fullest. Our history is rich with debates (argue ?) ecumenical councils, forums , demoninational annual meetings ect. These have all influenced what is taught throughout the church today.

In the scriptures mentioned above we are given a charge to go above and beyond allowing false doctrine to float around the church unchecked. Sound doctrine is not what godsdozer says nor is it what Jeff la says..............................it is what the scripture says. I attempt to provide biblical proof of sound doctrine in every post I make or those I comment on. If someone disagrees GREAT, we can discuss it. Doesnt mean we are arguing but rather growing in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior.

Have a great day

[Jeff La]

The point is anyone who believes and preaches in Jesus name is of the same. Mark 9: 38-40

[gws21]

The Nar and new reformation are spoils of sound doctrine. As the Bible teaches he will come as a thief in the night

[godsdozer]

gws21 could you please define what "Nar" means and "new reformation" is ? I have never heard of "Nar" or "new reformation". Jesus did teach he would come as a thief in the night................what is your point ? Thanks