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  1. Member DrewFlu33's Avatar
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    #21
    Brandon Palaniuk has a video where he talks about why snelling a straight shank may not be the best idea. I always felt like the "lever" action didn't seem like it would be a good thing, but he artciulated it and shows exactly what I had in mind way better than I ever could:


    I tie a Palomar on both types of hooks, leave a 1/4" or more tag (because I think a lot of knots break when they slip just a bit and don't have enough tag) and, since I've started clicking the drag just a bit off from being cranked all the way down, can't remember the last bass I broke off while flipping. I like the Superline EWG for most situations, but do go with a straight shank on Elaztech stuff as it will ball up and ruin your day on an EWG. I throw 4/0 in both when flipping.
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    #22
    I double all my palomar knots and have not had a problem with it slipping through the eye since.

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    #23
    Well the tournament was yesterday and I went back to my 5/0 Gamakatsu Superline hooks. The pattern didn’t change much so we flipped at least 80% of the day. I got 2nd place (coangler), but wow what a difference! I still missed a few but I nailed 85% of the flipping bass and they were all hooked very well!

    Im sure I will experiment more before our next tourney on the 30th but I will use at least a 5/0 straight shank instead of the 4/0 (flipping a 4.25” stick o) and I will not snell. We’ll see if those changes can equal or better my landing %.

    And YES I went back to crossing their eyes on the hookset!

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Casslaw View Post
    Well the tournament was yesterday and I went back to my 5/0 Gamakatsu Superline hooks. The pattern didn’t change much so we flipped at least 80% of the day. I got 2nd place (coangler), but wow what a difference! I still missed a few but I nailed 85% of the flipping bass and they were all hooked very well!

    Im sure I will experiment more before our next tourney on the 30th but I will use at least a 5/0 straight shank instead of the 4/0 (flipping a 4.25” stick o) and I will not snell. We’ll see if those changes can equal or better my landing %.

    And YES I went back to crossing their eyes on the hookset!

    Thanks everyone!
    No matter the hook style or the knot, always cross their eyes!
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    #25
    I personally use a snell w/ a closed eye straight shank hook. W/ any single hook hookset you ratio of lands will improve dramatically by setting the hook to the side vs, vertically. On a short line, especially w/ heavy line, and more especially w/ a heavy weight you pull the fishes mouth open on a vertical hookset. Try it, you'll like it!!

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    #26
    If I'm flipping and pitching it's with a snelled strait shank hook, unless its a straight tail worm. For me I find the hook up ratio to be a lot higher. I suspect a lot of it has to do with each persons hook set technique. Now open water, dragging is a different story. Then it's EWG all day long.
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    #27
    One thing I've noticed is that my hookups with a snelled straight shank went way up when I stopped setting the hook like I do with a ewg. With the snelled hook it's get tight and a powerful lean/pull.

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Casslaw View Post
    Hey guys. I have been flipping and pitching with EWG Superline Gammys. Last weekend I switched to my buddy’s set up with a 4/0 straight shank, snelled, and my hook up ratio went DOWN a lot! Even on small fish I wasn’t landing them.

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    #29
    I agree with chad i beleive snelling your knots causes the hook to interfere with the wieght making a super hard hookset blow the fishes mouthopen and the hook point in a bad spot i know everyone says you should snell your flippin rig but its all on your technique and fishing style one works for some people and other hinders them fishing is a learning experience and we all have to find whats right for ourselves

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    #30
    Owner twistlock flipping hook zowire so its smaller and its got the silky coating its a great hook and your plastic cant ball up on the hook but you cant snell it

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    #31
    I think snelling with a straight shank is much more for a more vertical hookset closer quarters, and I find with a snelled straight shank I set the hook like a mat fish and just get tight and pullback. I think if you blast a fish with a snelled straight shank you can pop his mouth open. If im pitching away from the boat or more open water stuff then I will go with an EWG. The hook up percentage for me with an EWG when im fishing a little ways away from the boat is huge. Just my two cents. I think everyone has their opinion based on how they set the hook and the cover they fish.

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    #32
    So how would a snelled straight shank do around wood? Downed trees? Seems like you'd get hung up a lot.

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