Another truck towing question......

[n2ratfishin]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_8L90_transmission

An easy way to tell the difference in gearing between the two.

Find a 8 speed GM and drive it around a bit in 6th gear which is 1-1. Do the same with a Tundra in 4th gear which is 1-1. You should feel the difference in gearing, especially if you try and run over 70 MPH.

Somewhere Toyota electronically softened the gas pedal on the Tundra. I found that out after a guy that had an 07 Tundra drove my 15 Tundra and noted how different they felt tho they had the same engine, transmission, and rear end ratio. Companies like Pedal Commander sell software to wake up your gas pedal. I have never found the need with the Tundra. Those and other tuners are popular with the Silverado. Rear end ratios just don't make up the differences in driving with all the under and overdrives. Like I said, your best bet is going to drive all you're interested in and buying the one that makes ya smile.

The next gen Tundra is rumored to get a turbocharged V6 like the Eco Boost. Hope they keep a reliable V8 option.

[basscla]

Buy the Tundra, you will love it.

[BroWhoop]

As far gear ratio. Not a Chevy or Toyota. My last truck 2014 F150 FX4 with 5.0, 6 spd. with 3.55. My 19 F150 FX4 with 5.0, 10 spd and 3.73. Both pull very good. At 70 mph the on with the 10 speed there is 100 rpm in difference in the rpm between 3.55 & 3.73. If I never pulled anything I might go with a higher ration 3.31 or something (and I say might). For a pick up truck all around use, I personally like 3.55 or 3.73. I've pulled flat bed trailers up to 10k lbs no issues. Wind resistance on a trailer than weight is.

[BPenrod]

Today's trucks shouldn't have any trouble towing a bass boat, almost all are 300+ horsepower. Back in the 70's-80's none were over 200 horsepower and towed everything that needed to be towed. People over think this way too much these days. Just make sure it's big enough to stop what is being towed, you don't want an S-10 towing a cuddy cabin.

[Warhawk]

I'll throw in my two cents worth. I had a 2017 Titan, 5.6 V8, nearly 400 hp and 400 tq. My boat is a little tin Tracker that's easy to pull. Even so, my normally 20-21 mpg titan dropped to 13 mpg towing.

Last fall I bought a Tacoma 4x4, 3.5 engine. It has nowhere near the power the titan had, but towing the same boat with the Tacoma I get 16-17 mpg. I used tow mode on the Titan, and tow in 4th (1:1) with the Tacoma.

I'm a die hard Toyota fan (the Titan was a mistake) so you know which one I'd get.

[caddyjoe77]

I pull a 21 PHX with the new 1500 Duramax -- no issues so far.

[kojimep]

I keep this pic handy just for these questions, depending on which transmission you have, the ring is gear much less of an issue than many want to believe it is. If you are only pulling a boat it should never be an issue.

*Edit* Wanted to add that I have a Sierra with 6.2/8 Speed/3.23 and have it pulls great.

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[Hair Jig]

My word ....... It's a BOAT you're towing. Any 1500 size truck with a V8 should do the job nicely. Yes, there are better gear ratios and varying HP ratings. But is this really a serious concern? I've pulled 18+ foot boats on tandem trailers for years with Chevy V8s, Ford V8s, and Ram V8s. Never had a problem.

[trashmanssd]

I would say my acceptable list for towing with a 1500 type truck would be, Toyota 5.7 gas, GMC or Chevy 6.2 gas, Ford 3.5 high out put eco boost gas, Dodge 5.7 gas. Thats in my order of preference (I don't know squat about the 1500 diesels). I have a Tundra right now been driving it almost 7 years its got 150K miles on it and it is a beast towing the boat. Before this I had 08 Chevy Avalance 5.3 and 99 GMC 5.3 and both were fine but felt lacking on step hills and like someone else mentioned worse was they felt gutless unladen when you tried to accelerate quickly from a light or onto a highway. You would hit the throttle and it would make a whole lot of noise but really never felt like it accelerated any faster then it would at 1/3 throttle. I ordered a F250 Diesel in February which is way way over kill but I wanted to try one, now if the factory ever reopens they may actually build it.

[greg88]

The Toyota truck on the current platform is a much better towing package and more trouble free

[Cestratton]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_8L90_transmission

An easy way to tell the difference in gearing between the two.

Find a 8 speed GM and drive it around a bit in 6th gear which is 1-1. Do the same with a Tundra in 4th gear which is 1-1. You should feel the difference in gearing, especially if you try and run over 70 MPH.

Somewhere Toyota electronically softened the gas pedal on the Tundra. I found that out after a guy that had an 07 Tundra drove my 15 Tundra and noted how different they felt tho they had the same engine, transmission, and rear end ratio. Companies like Pedal Commander sell software to wake up your gas pedal. I have never found the need with the Tundra. Those and other tuners are popular with the Silverado. Rear end ratios just don't make up the differences in driving with all the under and overdrives. Like I said, your best bet is going to drive all you're interested in and buying the one that makes ya smile.

The next gen Tundra is rumored to get a turbocharged V6 like the Eco Boost. Hope they keep a reliable V8 option.

The tow/haul ass button brings your pedal back to what the pre 2014 models felt like. For fun when you're at a red-light (especially next to a big 3) press it and it'll throw ya head back. Want to really open it up? Press the traction control button once then again but hold for 3 seconds and a third time for 3 seconds now all nannies are off, noe put it in tow/haul ass and enjoy. Its called "Beast Mode".

[MichPhoenix77]

I pull a 21 PHX with the new 1500 Duramax -- no issues so far.

I would love to hear what you are getting for gas’s mileage on every day driving and towing your boat?

[gehol]

The max tow (3.42) trucks get the larger 9.76" rear.

You are correct, max tow and the 6.2 has a 1/4 inch larger ring gear. However, the numbers the OP were talking about has nothing to with physical size.

[Ranger391v]

I've got a 2019 (new body style) Silverado 1500 CC w/ 5.3L, 8spd, 3.42, 4x4, w/Max Tow. I've got 8,000 miles on it. I get 20.5-21mpg average (mostly highway and some town .... rural life). I get 14.5mpg pulling my Z520.

I've also got a '12 Silverado 1500 CC Z71 w/5.3L, 6spd, 3.42 ...... It's got 87,000miles. I average 16.5-17.5mpg with the same kind of driving as above. It gets 11.5mpg pulling the Z520.

Both of those trucks pull that boat pretty easily in my opinion. The 2019 is definately more effortlessly than the 2012. Between my trucks, Tahoe's, work's trucks .... it definately ain't the same 5.3L as the ones I've had experience with in '03, '04, '05, '06, '06, '08, and '12. I do live in the piedmont portion (rolling hills) of our state.

I got a '02 2500HD EC 4x4 with 238,000miles if I need to do real towing (farm tractor, farm equipment, etc).

I hope this helps. ............... and YES, I love my 2019. I'd GLADLY buy a 2020 exactly like it ...... except I'd get it with the towing mirrors (not an option in 2019).

[kojimep]

You are correct, max tow and the 6.2 has a 1/4 inch larger ring gear. However, the numbers the OP were talking about has nothing to with physical size.

I believe any '15 and newer with the 6.2 has the 9.76" ring gear even without max tow. At least, my '15 Sierra with 6.2/8 Speed, without Max Tow, has the larger 9.76" ring gear.

[Bassman Ia.]

Size of the tire will change the gear ratio.

We used to carry a couple different tire heights when we were drag racing.

[caddyjoe77]

I would love to hear what you are getting for gas’s mileage on every day driving and towing your boat?

this is no lie -- promise -- this thing is the real deal. On a long interstate trip from alabama to illinois about 75 average when on the highway I get 28 - 29. RPMs about 1600 - 1700 best estimation.

putzing around town about 26

if i go on a drive where the speed limit is 65 or less and obey those speed limits i get over 30.

hauling my boat -- i get 16. I have not taken it on a several hour haul yet with the boat so i dont know if thats slightly better or slightly worse.

[fishin couillon]

What motor do you have in the 05, a 4.6 or 5.4?

5.4....this is a replacement motor from Ford, it has 68k miles on it.....Drivetrain and rest of truck has 168K miles.

As for tires, i'm not the one to put large mud tires and 12" lift kits. Most would be AT tires of same factor size and maybe leveling kit but thats the extent of it.

[WPS456]

I've got an '07 Tundra and love it. That being said, last time I was in the Pineville, LA area, I don't recall seeing too many hills or climbs that you'd have trouble with. For towing, I think you'll be fine with either so just go with the truck you like the best.

[Kingfisher 2]

Get the tundra with the 5.7